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This was sitting in plain sight for so long earlier on this thread - Phillies team under Hargan. The only cards it could be (gray color, not in another row already) were Hargan, Banks and Linz. The thickness variations in the visible border make it a cinch for Hargan. This creates another 5 card partial column - Hargan, Phillies, Buchek, Wynn and Ferrara.
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I was going to argue again about why Hatton was over the A's team instead of the Phillies - even though Phillies is under Hargan, could be under Hatton on the other slit - but since Hatton is now confirmed next to Wyatt, this places him in a 3 card partial column and since Phillies team is in a 5 card partial, well that's that. Hatton over the A's team.
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I've long wondered why it can't be Rollins to the right of Ellsworth in the diamond miscut - the grass color is much darker than Ellsworth's in both cases, and trying to be precise on color tone with that poor image is dicey. I'm not saying it IS Rollins, just asking why it couldn't be. For you does it come down to the darker green on McCool?
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“interesting to some absolute garbage to others.” —- “Error cards and variations are for morons, IMHO.” |
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“interesting to some absolute garbage to others.” —- “Error cards and variations are for morons, IMHO.” Last edited by Cliff Bowman; 02-05-2025 at 06:41 PM. Reason: Grammar |
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I can't believe it but we actually have a 1966 6th Series cluster going.
???????? - ?????? - Cannizzaro - ?????? ***l*******l********l********l*** ???????? - ?????? - *Belinsky* - ?????? ***l*******l********l********l*** *Howard - Hatton - **Wyatt** - ?????? ***l*******l********l********l*** *Oliva* - A's Team - *Blefary* - ?????? ***l*******l*********l********l*** Simmons - Radatz - Klippstein - McAuliffe ***l*******l********l********l*** Ellsworth - Rollins - ????????? - McCool
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I show it could be Covington, Stanky, Wilhelm or John in the Hargan column - do you prefer Covington due to card counts?
On McCool under McAuliffe - why McCool? We have McAuliffe in a column of 1 right now - the only blue cards it couldn't be are those in columns 1 and 10 and those in the Klippstein and Radatz columns to his left - together these are Nuxhall, Rollins, Klippstein and Edwards. Could still be McCool, Coleman or Oliva, no? Can you re-post the card count list you're using for reference? I did one way back on the first page of this thread. Last edited by deweyinthehall; 02-05-2025 at 07:20 PM. |
#8
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2. That blue card has to be 4x, Oliva and Edwards are 3x and Oliva is already in the cluster on a 3x row and Edwards is a right edge card.
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The card above Frank Howard is a Tiger or a Cardinal and has to be a 4x. Fox, Skinner, Wood, McAuliffe, and Simmons are eliminated, and Woodeshick is a 3x. That leaves Lolich and Buchek. Lolich is in another column with five confirmed cards. That leaves Buchek. I know he has the Phillies Team card above him, but I don't remember why you have Buchek and the Phillies Team card in a column with Wynn and Ferrara?
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The Cub above Hargan is Dick Ellsworth, the column is complete at seven cards and goes:
Hargan Phillies Team Buchek Howard Oliva Simmons Ellsworth
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Here's an update of the cluster:
Richardson - Johnson - *Hargan* - ??????? - ????????? - Yankees Rookies ***l**********l*********l********l********l******* ****l*** *Rodgers* - Jimenez - Phillies Tm - ?????? - Cannizzaro - **Bressoud** ***l*********l********l********l********l********* ***l** **Lolich* - O'Donoghue- Buchek - ?????? - *Belinsky* - ?????????? ***l*********l********l********l********l********* ***l*** *Bunker* - ????????? - *Howard* - Hatton - **Wyatt** - ???????? ***l*********l********l********l*********l******** ***l*** *Bob Lee* - ??????? - **Oliva** - A's Team - *Blefary* - ???????? ***l*********l*********l********l*********l******* ***l**** *Wynn* - ????????? - **Simmons - Radatz - Klippstein - **McAuliffe ***l*********l********l********l********l********* **l**** Ferrara - **Bennett - *Ellsworth - *Rollins - ????????? - **McCool*
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I show that the Buchek/Phillies vertical MC was id'd because of the recurring dot seen on the Phillies card. And you also have the Phillies TC mc.
1966_463_TC.jpg and this MC of Wynn with a Phil or Indian above 1966_520_TC.jpg |
#13
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I actually do think it is Lee over Wynn |
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Updated, I think that has to be an Angel/Brave above Wynn rather than an Indian/Phillie.
***Fox**** - Richardson - Johnson - *Hargan* - Podres - ????????? - Yankees Rookies - ??????? - Roznovsky - ???? ***l**********l*********l********l********l******* ****l***********l***********l********l******l*** **Skinner** - Rodgers* - Jimenez - Phillies Tm - ?????? - Cannizzaro - **Bressoud*** - ??????? - *Kline** - ?????? ***l*********l********l********l********l********* ***l***********l***********l********l*******l*** **Aaron** - **Lolich* - O'Donoghue- Buchek - ?????? - *Belinsky* - ??????????????? - ??????? - ???????? - *Azcue* ***l*********l********l********l********l********* ***l***********l***********l********l*******l** **Moeller** - *Bunker* - Covington - *Howard* - Hatton - **Wyatt** - ????????????? - ???????? - ???????? - Buford ***l*********l********l********l*********l******** ***l***********l ***********l********l******l*** Cubs Rookies - *Bob Lee* - ???????? - **Oliva** - A's Team - *Blefary* - ????????????? - Banks* - McDaniel - Latman ***l*********l*********l********l*********l******* ***l***********l************l********l*******l**** *Gonzalez* - *Wynn* - ????????? - **Simmons - Radatz - Klippstein - **McAuliffe** - *Green* - **Linz** - *Stuart* ***l*********l********l********l********l********* **l************l*******************l********l**** **Nuxhall** - Ferrara - **Bennett - *Ellsworth - *Rollins - Tommy John - **McCool** - ???????? - *Barber** - ??????
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Lenny Green and Phil Linz are side by side on a 4x row, Green has an Indian/Phillie above him and Linz has a Senator/Giant above him, I am confident that George Banks is above Green and Lindy McDaniel is above Linz because Banks and McDaniel are side by side.
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#18
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Yankees Rookie Stars has a Twin/Red above it, so that means it has to be under either Rollins or McCool, I compared the Yankees Rookies to both and it matches McCool because the left tip of the blue has the tail that matches the Yankees Rookies miscut.
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***Fox**** - Richardson - Johnson - *Hargan* - Podres - ????????? - Yankees Rookies - ??????? - Roznovsky - ????
***l**********l*********l********l********l******* ****l***********l***********l********l******l*** **Skinner** - Rodgers* - Jimenez - Phillies Tm - ?????? - Cannizzaro - **Bressoud*** - ??????? - *Kline** - ?????? ***l*********l********l********l********l********* ***l***********l***********l********l*******l*** **Aaron** - **Lolich* - O'Donoghue- Buchek - ?????? - *Belinsky* - ??????????????? - ??????? - ???????? - *Azcue* ***l*********l********l********l********l********* ***l***********l***********l********l*******l** **Moeller** - *Bunker* - Covington - *Howard* - Hatton - **Wyatt** - ????????????? - ???????? - ???????? - Buford ***l*********l********l********l*********l******** ***l***********l ***********l********l******l*** Cubs Rookies - *Bob Lee* - Friend - **Oliva** - A's Team - *Blefary* - ????????????? - Banks* - McDaniel - Latman ***l*********l*********l********l*********l******* ***l***********l************l********l*******l**** *Gonzalez* - *Wynn* - ????????? - **Simmons - Radatz - Klippstein - **McAuliffe** - *Green* - **Linz** - *Stuart* ***l*********l********l********l********l********* **l************l*******************l********l**** **Nuxhall** - Ferrara - **Bennett - *Ellsworth - *Rollins - Tommy John - **McCool** - ???????? - *Barber** - ?????? I believe there are seven more 4x cards, Bragan, Face, Gibbon, Hannan, Stanky, Stigman, Wilhelm, and there are seven open slots in the three 4x rows, Aaron, Gonzalez, Nuxhall, the problem is there is no way to fit in the remaining combos and meet the other requirements in the current layout. If dewey is right about Coleman being to the left of Red Sox Rookies then there is a six card block of Gibbon - Hannan Braves Rookies - Schofield Coleman - Red Sox Rookies plus Red Sox Rookies has a Rookie Stars card to its right. Then there is a two card combo of Stigman-Face on a 4x row. I probably have at least one column in the wrong spot.
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#20
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I believe Gordy Coleman has to be over either O'Donoghue or Phil Linz. These are the only 2 gray border cards aren't in column of more than 4 cards, which don't have objects along the top border and on which the sky isn't simply too dark a blue to fit. Either option would create a complete column of 7 with 3 4x and 4 3x each.
An O'donoghue match would produce a column of Coleman/Braves Rookies/Jimenez/Johnson (3x) and Gibbon, O'Donoghue/Bennett (4x). If it's Linz we have Coleman/Braves Rookies/Roznovsky/Kline (3x) and Linz/Gibbon/Barber (4x). We know Linz has a Green bar above him, and in his scenario it would be Gibbon. Again, this is based on the fact I don't think it could be other than these two under Coleman - I think it's probably Linz. The sky on his card is a bit lighter than O'Donoghues. There's been a lot of activity today so tell me what I missed. Thoughts? Last edited by deweyinthehall; 02-07-2025 at 05:45 AM. |
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