SUBJECT: BEWARE Steve Verkman, Keith Vari, Leland�s, Clean Sweep & Paragon auctions

Gorditadogg · #1 02-07-2025, 10:48 PM

I've been watching old Game of Thrones episodes, and I like that when someone is on trial, the accused can opt for Trial by Combat. The prosecutor and defendant both choose a champion to represent them in a fight to the death. Because the survivor is chosen by the gods, this is considered a just verdict.

While Joeb is no longer prosecuting his case and Steve V only sent one written statement to us, through Leon, we have bigfanNY and oldjudge acting as champions of the two parties.

May they fight with honor!

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Carter08 · #2 02-08-2025, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Gorditadogg

I've been watching old Game of Thrones episodes, and I like that when someone is on trial, the accused can opt for Trial by Combat. The prosecutor and defendant both choose a champion to represent them in a fight to the death. Because the survivor is chosen by the gods, this is considered a just verdict.

While Joeb is no longer prosecuting his case and Steve V only sent one written statement to us, through Leon, we have bigfanNY and oldjudge acting as champions of the two parties.

May they fight with honor!

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A lot less nudity here than in GOT thankfully.

Mark17 · #3 02-08-2025, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Carter08

A lot less nudity here than in GOT thankfully.

Actually I'm usually naked when I post but that's neither here nor there...

ocjack · #4 02-08-2025, 10:38 AM

I'm late to the party, but in a quick review of the postings, I don't see anywhere that Steve Verkman actually commented on the transaction. Just a lot of "I spoke to Steve..." and "Steve told me..." comments.

Is there a reason Steve doesn't come on and explain the transaction himself? Wouldn't that be better than alot of heresay evidence? If I missed Steve's comments, I'm sorry. But short of that, it appears - to my mind - that he may not want to be on the record with any comments.

Just my 2cents.

bnorth · #5 02-08-2025, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ocjack

I'm late to the party, but in a quick review of the postings, I don't see anywhere that Steve Verkman actually commented on the transaction. Just a lot of "I spoke to Steve..." and "Steve told me..." comments.

Is there a reason Steve doesn't come on and explain the transaction himself? Wouldn't that be better than alot of heresay evidence? If I missed Steve's comments, I'm sorry. But short of that, it appears - to my mind - that he may not want to be on the record with any comments.

Just my 2cents.

I would say Steve not posting anything is by far the best thing he could do. Do you remember when Brent and Betsy(PWCC) used to come on here? Their posting never made anything better. It also hilariously never hurt because nobody cares how slimy or great someone is as long as they have the card(s) they need. There are so many ways to enjoy this hobby.

Peter_Spaeth · #6 02-08-2025, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by ocjack

I'm late to the party, but in a quick review of the postings, I don't see anywhere that Steve Verkman actually commented on the transaction. Just a lot of "I spoke to Steve..." and "Steve told me..." comments.

Is there a reason Steve doesn't come on and explain the transaction himself? Wouldn't that be better than alot of heresay evidence? If I missed Steve's comments, I'm sorry. But short of that, it appears - to my mind - that he may not want to be on the record with any comments.

Just my 2cents.

Why would he? I highly doubt this little thread is not hurting his business.

raulus · #7 02-08-2025, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Why would he? I highly doubt this little thread is not hurting his business.

I�ll second the notion that there is probably little or no upside for the AH to come here and try to defend the situation. Typically once you start to respond, then people demand more info (as we already have). And then you end up in a spot where you are constantly having to respond to more and more requests for additional info, some of which is probably either subject to confidentiality agreements, trade secrets, or will just trigger additional questions further drawing you in to a never ending cycle of demands. And if you don�t manage it well, in a worst case scenario, you look like an unhinged jerk.

Alternatively, at some point in the near future, we�ll all get tired of this thread and move on, probably mostly or entirely forgetting that it ever happened.

Peter_Spaeth · #8 02-08-2025, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by raulus

I’ll second the notion that there is probably little or no upside for the AH to come here and try to defend the situation. Typically once you start to respond, then people demand more info (as we already have). And then you end up in a spot where you are constantly having to respond to more and more requests for additional info, some of which is probably either subject to confidentiality agreements, trade secrets, or will just trigger additional questions further drawing you in to a never ending cycle of demands. And if you don’t manage it well, in a worst case scenario, you look like an unhinged jerk.

Alternatively, at some point in the near future, we’ll all get tired of this thread and move on, probably mostly or entirely forgetting that it ever happened.

Exactly so. Not to say he's done anything wrong, I don't know all the facts or how to judge his fees, but even clear wrongdoers in this hobby do best by playing ostrich.

How many ever responded to the Blowout threads? None that I recall. How many suffered any consequences? None that I recall.

jingram058 · #9 02-08-2025, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by raulus

Alternatively, at some point in the near future, we�ll all get tired of this thread and move on, probably mostly or entirely forgetting that it ever happened.

Indeed. Like that thread about the vast number of cards stolen at a card show. There's never been any closure on that one.

Leon · #10 02-08-2025, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ocjack

I'm late to the party, but in a quick review of the postings, I don't see anywhere that Steve Verkman actually commented on the transaction. Just a lot of "I spoke to Steve..." and "Steve told me..." comments.

Is there a reason Steve doesn't come on and explain the transaction himself? Wouldn't that be better than alot of heresay evidence? If I missed Steve's comments, I'm sorry. But short of that, it appears - to my mind - that he may not want to be on the record with any comments.

Just my 2cents.

I think you must have missed this rule near the top of every page in bold letters? It's been there forever...ALso, I don't see your full contact info in the system. Some very early members didn't have their registration info recorded. Please PM that....full name and verifiable ph#.. Thanks so much!

If you write anything concerning a person or company your full name needs to be in your post or obtainable from it. .

PS...this goes for everyone commenting in this thread. So, if your full name isn't there, put it there please....

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