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Old 02-15-2025, 08:56 PM
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It's not. As I've maintained over and over again, he wasn't convicted for trimming the Wagner. Don't let the clown lawyers around here convince you that someone agreeing to a plea deal that mentions the Wagner trimming among a laundry list of a dozen other far more serious offenses equates to him having actually committed a crime with respect to trimming that card. "Obtaining a conviction" via a plea deal and being "convicted" by a judge and jury are not the same thing. I don't care what your hobby lawyer friends tell you. Even if they're the best lawyers on the planet. They're lying to you. That's what they get paid to do.
It’s almost impossible to believe how dumb you are — except when I look at your pathetic collection, the value of which reflects your IQ and low earning ability.
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Old 02-15-2025, 10:29 PM
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It’s almost impossible to believe how dumb you are — except when I look at your pathetic collection, the value of which reflects your IQ and low earning ability.
This was a beautiful response. I'm saving this one. Thank you for that! LOL
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Old 02-15-2025, 11:23 PM
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This may show my ignorance, but here it goes.... I assume that Bill Mastro trimmed the Wagner very carefully given its value even at the time. And I assume that that the Wagner was taken very carefully to PSA, resulting in no wear. But David Hall says the graders at PSA debated whether to give the card a 7 or an 8. But if the card is so perfect (aside from being hand cut), shouldn't the debate have been 9 vs. 10? And if the card is not that perfect, why not, given how carefully the card must have been cut and handled?
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Old 02-15-2025, 11:36 PM
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Mastro, as is easily proven, pled guilty to trimming the Wagner and the resulting fraud. Snowman's repeated position that it doesn't count as a conviction or a crime because he pled guilty is beyond stupid and seems to not understand the very basics of how the legal system works, but the reason he is wrong about something is not because some other poster has more money than him or a less pathetic collection. Until people want to accept that whoever the richest man in the world is at any given time is infallible, this is just as senseless.
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It’s almost impossible to believe how dumb you are — except when I look at your pathetic collection, the value of which reflects your IQ and low earning ability.
WTF? I don't care what issues you have with any poster, those kind of statements have no place on any board.
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WTF? I don't care what issues you have with any poster, those kind of statements have no place on any board.
Shhh... don't stop him now. He was just getting started!
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Time for a baseball card, 2 v 1 seems fitting.
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Shhh... don't stop him now. He was just getting started!
Maybe you could join his card forum and talk it out. I hear it is very popular.
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Maybe you could join his card forum and talk it out. I hear it is very popular.
Excuse me sir. Please don't tap on the glass. Thank you.
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