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Old 02-18-2025, 02:36 PM
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The background on this card is the best they could do “pre-photoshop”. The added crowd seems to be looking in the wrong direction… anyone ever see the un-altered version?
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Old 02-18-2025, 02:46 PM
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I thought the 1958 Topps set was pretty lame except for those All-Star cards. The Musial is a classic.
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Old 02-18-2025, 03:24 PM
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I thought the 1958 Topps set was pretty lame except for those All-Star cards. The Musial is a classic.
The 58 mays is my favorite mays topps card.
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The 58 mays is my favorite mays topps card.
The Willie Mays All Star card is alright but the regular card is a boring head shot.

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I always thought the 58 Clemente was a really nice card. I also like the Koufax.
The Bob Clemente card is alright but the Sandy Koufax card is another boring head shot.

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The Willie Mays All Star card is alright but the regular card is a boring head shot.



The Bob Clemente card is alright but the Sandy Koufax card is another boring head shot.

Big smile with his hat on and the nice blue background. Not boring at all to me.
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The Willie Mays All Star card is alright but the regular card is a boring head shot.



The Bob Clemente card is alright but the Sandy Koufax card is another boring head shot.

Disagree 1000 percent. To each his own.
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Another vote for the boring head shots and half-hearted efforts of 69’ here.

That said am I the only one that thinks much like the infamous Brooks Robinson Gomer Pyle impression, that Reggie is doing one hell of a Redd Foxx impression in 73’? It’s what I see every single time.
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Following up on Darren's post above

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I'm not sure why people blast sets for blurry photos or questionable airbrushing and don't flinch a bit at the 1961 set.

Almost every picture is blurry to some extent. Several pictures look almost like bad paintings.

And, as for hatless, there are by my count 96 pictures without hats in that set. That sixteen percent of the entire set. The 1969 set has 120 hatless shots but a bigger set by almost 100 cards.
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I'm not sure why people blast sets for blurry photos or questionable airbrushing and don't flinch a bit at the 1961 set.

Almost every picture is blurry to some extent. Several pictures look almost like bad paintings.

And, as for hatless, there are by my count 96 pictures without hats in that set. That sixteen percent of the entire set. The 1969 set has 120 hatless shots but a bigger set by almost 100 cards.
Agree. Willie Mays wore his hat since 1952, but apparently lost it in 1961.
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I'm not sure why people blast sets for blurry photos or questionable airbrushing and don't flinch a bit at the 1961 set.

Almost every picture is blurry to some extent. Several pictures look almost like bad paintings.

And, as for hatless, there are by my count 96 pictures without hats in that set. That sixteen percent of the entire set. The 1969 set has 120 hatless shots but a bigger set by almost 100 cards.
I hear that. Here's '61 in a nutshell:
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I'm not sure why people blast sets for blurry photos or questionable airbrushing and don't flinch a bit at the 1961 set.

Almost every picture is blurry to some extent. Several pictures look almost like bad paintings.

And, as for hatless, there are by my count 96 pictures without hats in that set. That sixteen percent of the entire set. The 1969 set has 120 hatless shots but a bigger set by almost 100 cards.
I don't like the 1961 Topps set at all. Not only are the player shots bad, but the fundamental design is boring. The only reason I'm willing to even consider any of the cards for my present day collection is that the cards form part of my childhood card collecting memories.

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I'm not sure why people blast sets for blurry photos or questionable airbrushing and don't flinch a bit at the 1961 set.

Almost every picture is blurry to some extent. Several pictures look almost like bad paintings.

And, as for hatless, there are by my count 96 pictures without hats in that set. That sixteen percent of the entire set. The 1969 set has 120 hatless shots but a bigger set by almost 100 cards.
96/587 = 16.4%. 120/664 = 18.1%. Add that there are also about 100 players whose cards are reused photos and that is why 1969 is considered worse.
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How about prewar? I personally abhor the Big Head set. Poorly drawn cartoons gone bad.
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Once Topps started using game shots in 1971, they got really lazy. They were already heading down that path around 1960, when the endless capless head shots start appearing. Due to expansion, the 1961 and 1969 sets have a ton of these images.
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The '58 set gets a lot of abuse, much of it deserved. But it holds a special place in my heart as those colorful rectangles were the first cards I laid eyes on. A kid from down the street in my Long Island neighborhood showed up one day with a small handful of them, and I was mesmerized. I remember that moment all these decades later, and it led directly to this lifelong obsession. I built it, I blogged it, I love it!

Long live the Topps '58 set!
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Once Topps started using game shots in 1971, they got really lazy. They were already heading down that path around 1960, when the endless capless head shots start appearing. Due to expansion, the 1961 and 1969 sets have a ton of these images.
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The '58 set gets a lot of abuse, much of it deserved. But it holds a special place in my heart as those colorful rectangles were the first cards I laid eyes on. A kid from down the street in my Long Island neighborhood showed up one day with a small handful of them, and I was mesmerized. I remember that moment all these decades later, and it led directly to this lifelong obsession. I built it, I blogged it, I love it!
Yes! That's what collecting is all about for me as well.

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I thought the 1958 Topps set was pretty lame
I'm not a fan of the '58 Topps because of the solid backgrounds. I've always wondered if Topps went this way to avoid having photos with Ebbets Field and the Polo Grounds in the background, since that was the first year the Dodgers and Giants were in California.
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I'm not a fan of the '58 Topps because of the solid backgrounds.
The brightly coloured solid backgrounds are precisely what I like about the 1958 cards! The set has far too many headshots though especially considering that there's mega room on the card for full body shots.

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Interesting about full photographic backgrounds and Topps cards. The 1957 Topps Baseball set was the first Topps sport card release with photo backgrounds. Then beginning in 1959 every Topps Baseball card set had the full photo background.

But this was unique to Topps Baseball issues. The Topps Football and Hockey sets all featured design art backgrounds. Some examples from my collection:

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1963



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The first O-Pee-Chee/Topps Hockey cards featuring full photo backgrounds were the 1973-74 ones. And just like the 1973 Topps Baseball, they were absolutely dreadful. The Hockey cards actually continued to be dreadful for the next decade or so.

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The background on this card is the best they could do “pre-photoshop”. The added crowd seems to be looking in the wrong direction… anyone ever see the un-altered version?
While I didn't see an answer to your question, here is a neat article on the card from SABR.
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