BST etiquette am I wrong

[Vintage Vern]

Originally Posted by raulus

My experience is that people around here tend to value their privacy a lot when it comes to what they’re buying, and in terms of what they have. So requiring that everyone post publicly that they’re interested (and might end up owning it) seems like it would face a lot of resistance.

This isn't a place for privacy. I mean we all are stamped here in many ways. Names, personal phone numbers, emails what's collected etc etc.

Honest people aren't the problem. Neither are people that say "I'll take it on a post".

Hell, most the guys know who has what anyway. People post items worth 5 or 6 figures all the time here.

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by Vintage Vern

This isn't a place for privacy. I mean we all are stamped here in many ways. Names, personal phone numbers, emails what's collected etc etc.

Honest people aren't the problem. Neither are people that say "I'll take it on a post".

Hell, most the guys know who has what anyway. People post items worth 5 or 6 figures all the time here.

I guess you didn't read the thread talking about showing off collections people have. Plenty of people there said they are very hesitant to tell people what they have or show them anything. Also, I don't know about you, but my phone number isn't posted anywhere on the board, and my email may have been on some old B/S/T threads, but with all of the scammers that pop up, I've stopped posting that as well.

https://net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=358153

[Vintage Vern]

Originally Posted by jayshum

I guess you didn't read the thread talking about showing off collections people have. Plenty of people there said they are very hesitant to tell people what they have or show them anything. Also, I don't know about you, but my phone number isn't posted anywhere on the board, and my email may have been on some old B/S/T threads, but with all of the scammers that pop up, I've stopped posting that as well.

https://net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=358153

Actually I did. I also see many other posts that people may take as harmless, but show a lot. Every board I've belonged you get to know people, and find out about them, directly or non directly. It's a public forum.

Many people have a ton of info in posts along with what they're collecting or looking for with contact information. Go on Google and much of what you post here can be found. You have your name and state. That's all it takes for people up to no good.

People that have signatures have all kinds of info. The sad thing is its to help, but also is a bad thing for people looking for targets.

[raulus]

Originally Posted by Vintage Vern

This isn't a place for privacy. I mean we all are stamped here in many ways. Names, personal phone numbers, emails what's collected etc etc.

Honest people aren't the problem. Neither are people that say "I'll take it on a post".

Hell, most the guys know who has what anyway. People post items worth 5 or 6 figures all the time here.

Go ahead and draft up the rules that you think should apply to the BST. And then lobby Leon to make them the law of the BST.

I wish you the best of luck!

[Vintage Vern]

Originally Posted by raulus

Go ahead and draft up the rules that you think should apply to the BST. And then lobby Leon to make them the law of the BST.

I wish you the best of luck!

Actually, I asked Leon directly today.His response was to post in both. That's the issue I see in this. Some post in one or the other not in both. Leon says you should.

What's so bad about keeping it in one place vs multiple?

I'd say the person that ended up with this is staying quite, because he doesn't want to be involved in this thread. Not because people know what he paid for said item.

How easy would it be for both parties if it was done in the BST post vs having both places that is causing issues. Maybe it will get more frequent,maybe it won't.

What I do know is if it's given one place it won't hurt the BST at all. People will still buy, and sell, and it will be done in order so no one can feel slighted. It protects both parties, and the others behind the initial winner if it breaks down. If you don't want people to know who you are get a burner account for BST.

[raulus]

Originally Posted by Vintage Vern

Actually, I asked Leon directly today.His response was to post in both. That's the issue I see in this. Some post in one or the other not in both. Leon says you should.

What's so bad about keeping it in one place vs multiple?

I'd say the person that ended up with this is staying quite, because he doesn't want to be involved in this thread. Not because people know what he paid for said item.

How easy would it be for both parties if it was done in the BST post vs having both places that is causing issues. Maybe it will get more frequent,maybe it won't.

What I do know is if it's given one place it won't hurt the BST at all. People will still buy, and sell, and it will be done in order so no one can feel slighted. It protects both parties, and the others behind the initial winner if it breaks down. If you don't want people to know who you are get a burner account for BST.

Cool. Good luck with enforcing those rules.

But when it comes to burner accounts, those are definitely not allowed around here under the existing rules, and will even get you banned PDQ. So that solution is DOA.

[John1941]

Originally Posted by Vintage Vern

This isn't a place for privacy. I mean we all are stamped here in many ways. Names, personal phone numbers, emails what's collected etc etc.

News to me that everyone here can see my full name, phone number, and email. Leon knows my phone number and people I've bought and sold with know my full name and address. And that's it.

As others have said, one miscommunication doth not a fundamental problem make. Most of my experiences on BST have been pretty simple - communications by DM have been limited to giving paypal information and address or discussion of shared collecting interests. Not sure what purpose it would serve to make people have to share that for everyone to see.

[Vintage Vern]

Originally Posted by John1941

News to me that everyone here can see my full name, phone number, and email. Leon knows my phone number and people I've bought and sold with know my full name and address. And that's it.

As others have said, one miscommunication doth not a fundamental problem make. Most of my experiences on BST have been pretty simple - communications by DM have been limited to giving paypal information and address or discussion of shared collecting interests. Not sure what purpose it would serve to make people have to share that for everyone to see.

Well John, if you ever post in certain posts, you will be made to reveal your full name by board rules. I can get your contact information with one click. If I'm interested or you are in BST I have everything. If you don't think your information can't be breached here you may want to buy my ocean front property in Missouri.

[John1941]

Originally Posted by Vintage Vern

Well John, if you ever post in certain posts, you will be made to reveal your full name by board rules. I can get your contact information with one click. If I'm interested or you are in BST I have everything. If you don't think your information can't be breached here you may want to buy my ocean front property in Missouri.

Well, in three years and nearly 500 posts I've never made any posts that necessitate my full name.

I may be wrong, but I don't see how you can find my personal information thru Net54 with one click.

And I'm not paranoid about being breached - I just don't think that buying/selling on the BST should require me to share with everyone my address, paypal, etc. which your plan requires unless I'm mistaken.

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by John1941

Well, in three years and nearly 500 posts I've never made any posts that necessitate my full name.

I may be wrong, but I don't see how you can find my personal information thru Net54 with one click.

And I'm not paranoid about being breached - I just don't think that buying/selling on the BST should require me to share with everyone my address, paypal, etc. which your plan requires unless I'm mistaken.

John, I think he is saying that if your full name and a location are listed for you, it's not too hard to find an address and phone number for someone through various online sites. It's not that all of your information is available through net54.

[John1941]

Originally Posted by jayshum

John, I think he is saying that if your full name and a location are listed for you, it's not too hard to find an address and phone number for someone through various online sites. It's not that all of your information is available through net54.

That makes sense but isn't really applicable for me as I don't have my full name listed here, and as a somewhat retiring high schooler I haven't populated the internet with my information yet. (And I just googled to make sure LOL.)

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by John1941

That makes sense but isn't really applicable for me as I don't have my full name listed here, and as a somewhat retiring high schooler I haven't populated the internet with my information yet. (And I just googled to make sure LOL.)

John, it's good to know there are some younger collectors on the board. Someone has to be around to buy all of the stuff we older guys have some day.

It is definitely hard to stay anonymous online, especially as you get older. There are just too many things that end up having to be done online (or are just so much more convenient and easy to do online) that eventually, some amount of personal information becomes available.

[Vintage Vern]

Originally Posted by jayshum

John, I think he is saying that if your full name and a location are listed for you, it's not too hard to find an address and phone number for someone through various online sites. It's not that all of your information is available through net54.

Correct. Thanks. Many of us have posted things that come up from here on a simple Google search. Along with much information as well.

This place is for sharing. "Privacy" is not belonging to social media, which this is a form of.

[Vintage Vern]

Originally Posted by John1941

Well, in three years and nearly 500 posts I've never made any posts that necessitate my full name.

I may be wrong, but I don't see how you can find my personal information thru Net54 with one click.

And I'm not paranoid about being breached - I just don't think that buying/selling on the BST should require me to share with everyone my address, paypal, etc. which your plan requires unless I'm mistaken.

If you write anything concerning a person or company your full name needs to be in your post or obtainable from it. I just did a quick search on your posts, and you should have been made to post your full name "New COMC Issues?" was one that you needed to have your full name to post in.

[John1941]

Originally Posted by Vintage Vern

If you write anything concerning a person or company your full name needs to be in your post or obtainable from it.

Yes. I know that. And I've never written anything concerning a person or company and don't plan on doing so either. And not because I'd be freaked out about people knowing my last name - I just don't have anything to say concerning people or companies.

This conversation probably isn't worth the bother but it's a nice break from number crunching for fantasy baseball prep.

[Vintage Vern]

Originally Posted by John1941

Yes. I know that. And I've never written anything concerning a person or company and don't plan on doing so either. And not because I'd be freaked out about people knowing my last name - I just don't have anything to say concerning people or companies.

This conversation probably isn't worth the bother but it's a nice break from number crunching for fantasy baseball prep.

"New COMC Issues?" Was the first I found from your posts, and I stopped. You also posted about a person passing, but didn't care to see who. I can go back farther if you would like? Not trying to bust your balls, but yes you have posted in both. You got passed Leon. Consider yourself lucky.

John1941 net54 try a Google search. Everything you posted in will show up.

I screen shot a few things for you.

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[John1941]

Originally Posted by Vintage Vern

If you write anything concerning a person or company your full name needs to be in your post or obtainable from it. I just did a quick search on your posts, and you should have been made to post your full name "New COMC Issues?" was one that you needed to have your full name to post in.

I find it creepy for you to substantially rewrite your posts in edit after a good chunk of time has passed. When you originally posted this there was nothing about my post in "New COMC issues." (What I quoted in post #170 is your original post in its entirety.)

Chad, if it's so easy to know everything about me, what is my last name exactly?

And if you can't tell me my name in three days you'll have to give me your first-born child. Rumplestiltskin rules.

[Vintage Vern]

Originally Posted by John1941

I find it creepy for you to substantially rewrite your posts in edit after a good chunk of time has passed. When you originally posted this there was nothing about my post in "New COMC issues." (What I quoted in post #170 is your original post in its entirety.)

Chad, if it's so easy to know everything about me, what is my last name exactly?

And if you can't tell me my name in three days you'll have to give me your first-born child. Rumplestiltskin rules.

Do you understand when you post your full name, it will take me 20 minutes. See most of us have to. You by board rules should as well. You're lucky so far flying under the radar not that I care. I'm pointing that out to you.