Beckett to SCG

[quitcrab]

I will try to get pictures of the cards up soon. Thanks. Scott

[Kutcher55]

It really boils down to the particular card. In general, I agree BVG will generally be 1 grade easier than SGC but it is far from linear. There's a good guy I did a deal with on the bst board who successfully crossed a 48 Leaf Ted Williams BVG 2 to an SGC 2. I wasn't surprised because it looked like a legit 2 in any holder. Generally speaking, I suspect it's easier to cross lower grade cards successfully. As you get into the upper echelons, where the gap might be highest is in that 6-8 range. A BVG in this ballpark is probably going to be tougher to cross.

But as I started to say in the beginning, it mostly depends on the specific card.

[jchcollins]

My guess is that modern BVG would average 1-2 grades lower than SGC, but it could depend. Some older BVG slabs weren't all bad. In about 2000 - 2002 when Beckett briefly did subgrades with vintage - those grades were very accurate, IMO.

[quitcrab]

Cards

[tiger8mush]

My guesses (based on that one pic):
Bench - 7.5
Ryan - 7
Clemente - 6.5

[quitcrab]

Time will tell. I will send them in to SGC in the next couple weeks

[Kutcher55]

Bench looks nice. Could be an 8, probably lower. Ryan could possibly get a 7, but hard to tell. Clemente is rough and should not have been crossed. It will grade 6 at best.

[Zach Wheat]

Originally Posted by jchcollins

My guess is that modern BVG would average 1-2 grades lower than SGC, but it could depend. Some older BVG slabs weren't all bad. In about 2000 - 2002 when Beckett briefly did subgrades with vintage - those grades were very accurate, IMO.

Agree with John about older BVG slabs.

[quitcrab]

Got the cards back from SGC
Ryan 6.5
Bench 7.5
Clemente 7

[tiger8mush]

Originally Posted by quitcrab

Got the cards back from SGC
Ryan 6.5
Bench 7.5
Clemente 7

Ryan: BVG 7 -> SGC 6.5
Bench: BVG 8 -> SGC 7.5
Clemente: BVG 7.5 -> SGC 7

So .5 grade drop across the board. Thanks for sharing!

[Kutcher55]

Boy I was off base. That's what I get for trying to estimate grade off a photo. All in all, not a terrible result. Did you send these in the slabs or take them out first? I wonder if SGC was just like F it and dropped them all a half grade, or if that was merely a coincidence.