Help with Another Pin? (Stan the Man Retirement)

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by Smanzari

Nice, kind of along the lines of what I was thinking (more or less common pin but "rare back"). Thank you!

It’s a rare back but I’m not sure it adds value. Maybe to a hard core Musial collector?

[Smanzari]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

It’s a rare back but I’m not sure it adds value. Maybe to a hard core Musial collector?

I hear ya, we're on the same page - my assumption was that but that it would also help the liquidity at/around comps so was going to the list pile rather than the dump lot! Thanks!

[batsballsbases]

Stefan that pin has been repro a ton. The one you have with the cream or tan back is a real one made in 1963.. The silver or aluminum back looking ones are reproductions.

[Smanzari]

Originally Posted by batsballsbases

Stefan that pin has been repro a ton. The one you have with the cream or tan back is a real one made in 1963.. The silver or aluminum back looking ones are reproductions.

That's DEFINITELY interesting, kind of blows your mind with the amount of repos I'm seeing. Thank you for the input!

[Hankphenom]

Originally Posted by batsballsbases

Stefan that pin has been repro a ton. The one you have with the cream or tan back is a real one made in 1963.. The silver or aluminum back looking ones are reproductions.

Not doubting your expertise on this, but why would anyone go to the trouble and expense of making repros of a large pin that has never been worth much, isn't worth much today, and never will be worth much? Also, I'm not sure I've ever seen the cream back on any other pin of any kind, so I'm not sure that can be seen as a differentiator. In any case, interesting situation no matter what the truth is.

[bocca001]

I can't speak to why someone would remake the Musial pin, but here is my Giants pin with the same back. I think the rusted one had the white back originally. The construction is identical. It just got exposed to the elements.

[batsballsbases]

Originally Posted by Hankphenom

Not doubting your expertise on this, but why would anyone go to the trouble and expense of making repros of a large pin that has never been worth much, isn't worth much today, and never will be worth much? Also, I'm not sure I've ever seen the cream back on any other pin of any kind, so I'm not sure that can be seen as a differentiator. In any case, interesting situation no matter what the truth is.

Hank many pins have been reproed thru the years there are at least 2 musials that were. I collected pins for over 45 years and have dealt a ton with that musial pin... the silver or aluminum backs are repro.. Here are a few more that are and have been reproed.. Mantle brewer the most! Note the 3 different color uses on the mantle day pin.. You might want to ask PINZPLUS on ebay how many pins he has reproed...

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by batsballsbases

Hank many pins have been reproed thru the years there are at least 2 musials that were. I collected pins for over 45 years and have dealt a ton with that musial pin... the silver or aluminum backs are repro.. Here are a few more that are and have been reproed.. Mantle brewer the most! Note the 3 different color uses on the mantle day pin.. You might want to ask PINZPLUS on ebay how many pins he has reproed...

Even though I don’t collect Cardinals or Musial, I always suspected that was a heavily reproduced pin because I see it a lot. How about the “Spahnie” pin I see a lot? I will say, I don’t think the 3” or 3.5” repros come from pinzplus because I think he only has 1,75” and 2.25” capabilities.

[Hankphenom]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

Even though I don’t collect Cardinals or Musial, I always suspected that was a heavily reproduced pin because I see it a lot. How about the “Spahnie” pin I see a lot? I will say, I don’t think the 3” or 3.5” repros come from pinzplus because I think he only has 1,75” and 2.25” capabilities.

I, too, have seen many of the big Musials and Spahnies over the years, and just figured they didn't get the crowds they were anticipating and were left with a lot of them, or some such. To me, the difference between those and the Mantles, and the Ted Williams smaller pin, for example, is that you could actually make some money reproing them, but the Musial and Spahn not so much. Just seems like if you're going to repro something, why large, expensive-to-make pins for which there is almost no demand? Doesn't make sense to me. Could they just have been made by different manufacturers for different purposes, perhaps, with the white back the "real one" from the game day and all the others sold outside for the rest of the season, or in stores?