Why Don�t We Have a Vintage Card Society?

Leon · #1 04-11-2025, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by toppcat

This has been tried a few times and always fails. SABR is a research-oriented organization and has its advantages but who is going to pay annual dues just to join if not already a member?

Almost No one.

Plus, they still let one of the biggest criminals ever in the hobby, Peter Nash, be part of their organization. As long as the current owner is running Net54baseball, we will have very little to do with them.

https://peternashpublicdocuments.com/

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Rich Klein · #2 04-11-2025, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Leon

Almost No one.

Plus, they still let one of the biggest criminals ever in the hobby, Peter Nash, be part of their organization. As long as the current owner is running Net54baseball, we will have very little to do with them.

https://peternashpublicdocuments.com/

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Leon:

To be honest, SABR does not do background checks on any prospective members so don't blame them for not checking everyone or anyone. Just like is Mr. Nash bought a VIP pass to the NSCC the odds are they would accept him attending as well.

Rich

Leon · #3 04-11-2025, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Rich Klein

Leon:

To be honest, SABR does not do background checks on any prospective members so don't blame them for not checking everyone or anyone. Just like is Mr. Nash bought a VIP pass to the NSCC the odds are they would accept him attending as well.

Rich

Many of "them" are on this forum, including very senior people there. They know about him. I am not angry or upset, or anything, just don't care to associate with those that associate with him. If other collectors love him, more power to them.
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jingram058 · #4 04-11-2025, 10:06 AM

As I said above, we already have a vintage card society, it's called net54baseball.com

We have all the experts in the hobby right here. We have someone of integrity and character running it. It doesn't cost us anything to join. There are no membership fees for us. I can only imagine what it costs Leon to keep it running.

There is no entity anywhere more devoted to vintage cards.

GasHouseGang · #5 04-11-2025, 10:18 AM

In keeping with NSCC tradition established over the last decade, I propose when this new group is formed, that it never meet anywhere but Cleveland, Chicago, or Atlantic City.

Snowman · #6 04-11-2025, 10:22 AM

Probably because it's not 1953 anymore and most collectors today couldn't give two shits what some random group of 5 guys thinks about anything having to do with the hobby. If you want a governing body, there are plenty of cults you could join.

raulus · #7 04-11-2025, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Snowman

Probably because it's not 1953 anymore and most collectors today couldn't give two shits what some random group of 5 guys thinks about anything having to do with the hobby. If you want a governing body, there are plenty of cults you could join.

To Frosty�s point, the other challenge will be getting anyone to pay attention, or care.

You would need to have better policing and punishing of violators, and that would be a challenge unless everyone bought into your standards and policies.

As our history has taught us, our standards are usually flexible if the inducement is sufficiently remunerative.

Peter_Spaeth · #8 04-11-2025, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Snowman

Probably because it's not 1953 anymore and most collectors today couldn't give two shits what some random group of 5 guys thinks about anything having to do with the hobby. If you want a governing body, there are plenty of cults you could join.

LOL literally. Tell it like it is.

steve B · #9 04-16-2025, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Snowman

Probably because it's not 1953 anymore and most collectors today couldn't give two shits what some random group of 5 guys thinks about anything having to do with the hobby. If you want a governing body, there are plenty of cults you could join.

The philatelic group I'm in has about 900 members, including many of the major dealers. They publish a quarterly magazine in color covering a broad range of topics in detail.

Very little of what they publish besides ads has anything to do with the business end of the hobby.

Perhaps there's a troll club you can join if you already haven't?

John1941 · #10 04-11-2025, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Leon

Almost No one.

Plus, they still let one of the biggest criminals ever in the hobby, Peter Nash, be part of their organization. As long as the current owner is running Net54baseball, we will have very little to do with them.

https://peternashpublicdocuments.com/

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I'm a SABR member, and just checked the SABR directory. The only Nash that is a member of SABR is a Robert Nash from Nebraska - Peter Nash is apparently not a member anymore.

I wouldn't claim that SABR is perfect - no organization is - but it has a lot of great members and I appreciate all it's done.

Leon · #11 04-11-2025, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by John1941

I'm a SABR member, and just checked the SABR directory. The only Nash that is a member of SABR is a Robert Nash from Nebraska - Peter Nash is apparently not a member anymore.

I wouldn't claim that SABR is perfect - no organization is - but it has a lot of great members and I appreciate all it's done.

That is great to hear. It's not only that he was a member, they had held him in high acclaim, from what I remember. And no doubt, Peter Nash is very knowledgeable about the history of baseball. Kind of like Bank Burglers studying diagrams of banks. I am sure some of them are experts at bank architecture.

This sort of goes with the theme of the thread.

gonefishin · #12 04-11-2025, 02:52 PM

A Vintage Card Society? Where do I pay my Home Owners Association fees, sorry - I meant Vintage Card Society fees.

A big negative for me.

Leon · #13 04-15-2025, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by gonefishin

A Vintage Card Society? Where do I pay my Home Owners Association fees, sorry - I meant Vintage Card Society fees.

A big negative for me.

I have always thought that if membership on the forum were $1 a year, the membership would go down substantially. People, including me, don't want to pay for stuff!

And a baseball ticket to an Annual Ball, from 1867....quite early and ornate..

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