SGC Going Away?

[bk400]

Originally Posted by Snowman

We're already past that point though. The reason SGC, CGC, and now MBA are all growing quickly is precisely because of how incompetent PSA has become.

I'm long CGC. They have the heritage grading other things well for a long time; stable, deep pocketed ownership; and from my perspective, very competent on the technical side of grading.

Do they market themselves well, perhaps not. But if the goal is to buy a card and trust the grading, I think CGC is right there.

[aconte]

Originally Posted by bk400

I'm long CGC. They have the heritage grading other things well for a long time; stable, deep pocketed ownership; and from my perspective, very competent on the technical side of grading.

Do they market themselves well, perhaps not. But if the goal is to buy a card and trust the grading, I think CGC is right there.

What will being long for CGC get you? The answer imho is the same as where
we are right now with SGC. They have been around for 20-25 years and we
are at a point where their future is being questioned and may be in doubt in
their current form. Because of this, the long term concern of value for the cards left in the SGC holder has the potential to slide.

CGC has been around a short time grading cards and don't have a
strong brand following for their graded cards. Their a long way from being
considered an industry option.

It's all a joke. Just buy the card and forget the rest.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by bk400

I'm long CGC. They have the heritage grading other things well for a long time; stable, deep pocketed ownership; and from my perspective, very competent on the technical side of grading.

Do they market themselves well, perhaps not. But if the goal is to buy a card and trust the grading, I think CGC is right there.

i agree!

[4815162342]

Originally Posted by bk400

I'm long CGC. They have the heritage grading other things well for a long time; stable, deep pocketed ownership; and from my perspective, very competent on the technical side of grading.

Do they market themselves well, perhaps not. But if the goal is to buy a card and trust the grading, I think CGC is right there.

Was this CGC mystery ever solved?

[Johnny630]

How many key vintage cards that look great for their conditions do we see graded in CSG Holders in the big guys Auctions? Like REA, Heritage, And Memory Lane…I can’t think of many. Once that starts happening I may take them seriously as being a viable option.

[parkplace33]

Originally Posted by Johnny630

How many key vintage cards that look great for their conditions do we see graded in CSG Holders in the big guys Auctions? Like REA, Heritage, And Memory Lane…I can’t think of many. Once that starts happening I may take them seriously as being a viable option.

Agree. Outside of maybe one auction house, I haven't seen CSG cards in any of the major auctions.

I do see them at shows, but mainly on Pokemon and other TPG. A few vintage, but very rare.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by parkplace33

Agree. Outside of maybe one auction house, I haven't seen CSG cards in any of the major auctions.

I do see them at shows, but mainly on Pokemon and other TPG. A few vintage, but very rare.

There's no supply because there's no demand, and there's no demand because there's no supply.

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

There's no supply because there's no demand, and there's no demand because there's no supply.

Yogi Spaeth

[Johnny630]

Originally Posted by parkplace33

Agree. Outside of maybe one auction house, I haven't seen CSG cards in any of the major auctions.

I do see them at shows, but mainly on Pokemon and other TPG. A few vintage, but very rare.

Exactly Same here….

[sbfinley]

Originally Posted by parkplace33

Agree. Outside of maybe one auction house, I haven't seen CSG cards in any of the major auctions.

I do see them at shows, but mainly on Pokemon and other TPG. A few vintage, but very rare.

I get a ton of Pokémon popping up in my Reddit feed because I follow mostly sports card subs. That crowd only cares about what TPG is the cheapest and has the fastest turnaround. They were all about CGC until they raised prices and extended turnaround times. Then they became all about TAG until they too got overwhelmed with submissions and doubled prices and wait times. I’ve probably seen a hundred posts of people complaining that PSA ripped them off because they subbed a $5k card through GameStop for $15 and now PSA is requesting additional fees. Some of them can’t afford the additional costs and now claim PSA stole their cards. It’s crazy, it’s like the California gold rush if it were kids showing up with plastic sandcastle shovels.