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Old 05-12-2025, 07:27 AM
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Thoughts on this listing??? As a Tigers fan I've never seen this one before or style, I'm leaning towards fake.

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Old 05-12-2025, 02:55 PM
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Thoughts on this listing??? As a Tigers fan I've never seen this one before or style, I'm leaning towards fake.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/17708554510...Bk9SR4r6qsfYZQ
If it's a fake, it's a pretty good fake. But, yeah, it looks "off."
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I saw that when it came up. Looks fake to me too. A few things caught my eye:

1. If you look at the seam where the Black and Gold sections join, the stitching doesn't look right to me. Here's the stitching from an early 2 part Tigers pennant sold by Hunt vs this one on Ebay.

2. The material doesn't look right

3. I'll defer to others with more knowledge, but I believe "2-part" pennants were from the early 1900's up to about the late 1910s. I don't know that they were being used in the 1930s.

Plus the lettering looks off. The D in Detroit isn't right. That D was used in the Tigers logo in 1917....not 1935.
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I saw that when it came up. Looks fake to me too. A few things caught my eye:

1. If you look at the seam where the Black and Gold sections join, the stitching doesn't look right to me. Here's the stitching from an early 2 part Tigers pennant sold by Hunt vs this one on Ebay.

2. The material doesn't look right

3. I'll defer to others with more knowledge, but I believe "2-part" pennants were from the early 1900's up to about the late 1910s. I don't know that they were being used in the 1930s.

Plus the lettering looks off. The D in Detroit isn't right. That D was used in the Tigers logo in 1917....not 1935.
I agree with all of this....

And wasn't this same pennant already discussed at length, either in this thread or another? We clearly deemed it to be a Franken-pennant. I believe that someone took an early Princeton Pennant and melded it with a Detroit City Souvenir Pennant.

Best to stay away from this one.
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It's a cool looking pennant and if fake it a well done fake. But the stitching gives it away IMO. Here's are some similar Princeton graphics...not that pennant makers didn't re-use graphics.
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Speaking of Princeton pennants...I can't resist picking them up, especially the early ones. There is absolutely zero demand and they are ridiculously cheap (as are most Ivy League). As Mike Wolfe would say..."You're making me buy it".

But this one...I'd probably pass on this one. What is that a werewolf? It looks like something you'd see on an early 70s blacklight poster. Too trippy for me.
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Last post for the the night...

Researching pennants I came across this picture. I recognize the Harvard football pennant on the wall but can't make out the Yale. The Chicago pillow appears to be football as well, but I'm seeing baseball in the Yale pennant. A sliding runner maybe? Anyone recognize it?

PS...Indianapolis 500 there as well?
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I agree with all of this....

And wasn't this same pennant already discussed at length, either in this thread or another? We clearly deemed it to be a Franken-pennant. I believe that someone took an early Princeton Pennant and melded it with a Detroit City Souvenir Pennant.

Best to stay away from this one.
Totally agree. I believe someone used a genuine ca. 1910s Princeton head-end, by Reproduction Co., I might add, and sewed it to the tail-end of a poorly made, contemporary "Detroit" pennant.

The Old English letter script is completely non-Repco, and Repco went out of business in 1935-36. Also, the apostrophe is backwards....

This was/is the genuine Repco two-piece pennant they were trying for....
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Totally agree. I believe someone used a genuine ca. 1910s Princeton head-end, by Reproduction Co., I might add, and sewed it to the tail-end of a poorly made, contemporary "Detroit" pennant.

The Old English letter script is completely non-Repco, and Repco went out of business in 1935-36. Also, the apostrophe is backwards....

This was/is the genuine Repco two-piece pennant they were trying for....
The “e” is ridiculously large and the font of “35” looks wrong as well. The whole right hand side might be homemade…
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The “e” is ridiculously large and the font of “35” looks wrong as well. The whole right hand side might be homemade…
FWIW … The Egner guide devotes a page to “pennants believed to be fake”, and of the 9 or 10 examples are three that are two-piece Tigers pennants, two dated 1935, but different designs.

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Thoughts on this listing??? As a Tigers fan I've never seen this one before or style, I'm leaning towards fake.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/17708554510...Bk9SR4r6qsfYZQ
I think the market has spoken. $305, and probably not worth that.
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Recent acquisition. Do the Tigers collectors know anything about this? I can't find another example ...
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That’s a pretty sweet banner. I’ve never seen that one or one that early like it.
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That’s sweet! Satin-like? How big is it?
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That’s sweet! Satin-like? How big is it?
It’s about 40x28 inches. Yes it’s a satin-like fabric and the graphics are screened.

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It’s about 40x28 inches. Yes it’s a satin-like fabric and the graphics are screened.
That’s a gorgeous banner Greg. Sweet pick-up!
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It’s about 40x28 inches. Yes it’s a satin-like fabric and the graphics are screened.
I think I missed the second picture, when I first saw your post. Is that stitch work to give it a “shimmering” effect? I’d love to know who made it.

Too bad you have no wall space!
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I think I missed the second picture, when I first saw your post. Is that stitch work to give it a “shimmering” effect? I’d love to know who made it.

Too bad you have no wall space!
Yeah that’s a deliberate pattern in the fabric.

It came with a thick dowel and a rope to hang, but the dowel was broken. Off to Michaels for a replacement. I’ll find room for it.

On this note … what other “banners” do you guys have? It seems to be that the Tigers, Dodgers, and Reds have a few of these so I’m figuring Mark S. and Bumpus Jones have pics to share?

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