Pete Rose and Shoeless Joe Jackson Reinstated by MLB

[steve B]

Originally Posted by Bigdaddy

Maybe I'm tripping up on semantics here, but weren't both Mickey and Willie (as mentioned by another poster) also banned from baseball while members of the Hall. AFAIK, their standing in the Hall did not change with Kuhn's ruling.

Their bans were mostly temporary. And only lasted as long as they were doing PR for casinos. If I remember it right Willie was contracted for a year and after that was back in. Didn't know about Mantle, but probably a similar situation

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by steve B

Their bans were mostly temporary. And only lasted as long as they were doing PR for casinos. If I remember it right Willie was contracted for a year and after that was back in. Didn't know about Mantle, but probably a similar situation

I thought Peter Ueberroth lifted their bans from baseball when he became commissioner.

[steve B]

A few thoughts.

The difference between Jackson and Rose.
Jackson may have thrown the series, as a talented player he could have failed in the right spots while playing well in others.
While they probably knew what they did was wrong, it wasn't yet against the rules (as far as I know. )

Rose - every day of his career walked past a sign saying gambling was against the rules and would result in a ban. Every day for 20+ years....
And at some point despite being told every day not to do it he went ahead and did it anyway.


And since this is a sports card and memorabilia group..
We're on page 4 and apparently have forgotten that along the way to the record for hits sold bats supposedly from a particular hit multiple times. So there are say two or more bats from hit 4101 out there. All hard to prove as game used since he was using at least one for every at bat. (I'm ok with one or more bats per AB, but not selling more than one as "the bat that got this hit"