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Old 05-20-2025, 01:54 PM
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Less then 2 months into a contract seems a bit early to be labeling it a bust, especially when the guy carries a 1.6 bWAR and a 133 ops+. Those numbers aren't up to Soto's career standards, but they are far from shabby.

There was a pretty vocal group of folks that labeled Lindor's contract a bust too early in the contract, but would be hard pressed to find someone who feels that way now. I think Soto has earned the benefit of the doubt to let this one simmer a bit as well.
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Less then 2 months into a contract seems a bit early to be labeling it a bust, especially when the guy carries a 1.6 bWAR and a 133 ops+. Those numbers aren't up to Soto's career standards, but they are far from shabby.

There was a pretty vocal group of folks that labeled Lindor's contract a bust too early in the contract, but would be hard pressed to find someone who feels that way now. I think Soto has earned the benefit of the doubt to let this one simmer a bit as well.
A fair, dispassionate challenge. But simmering dispassionately isn't really a thing for long suffering Mets fans like us!

So basically, Juan Soto is producing Teoscar Hernandez type numbers right now, which would be fine, but Teoscar is on a 3-year, $66mm contract, while Soto is playing on a contract that is bigger than that of Ohtani.

Speaking of Ohtani, I also watch a lot of Dodgers games. Mostly to torture myself with envy. Forget the home runs. That guy Ohtani beats out so many infield singles. He turns hard hit balls that don't quite make it to the wall into doubles and turns doubles into the corner into triples. And he goes to the f**king Dodgers on a $700mm contract -- mostly deferred -- and helps them win a ring in his first year. And the way karma for the Mets seem to work, he's probably going to come back just in time to bail out their rotation and pitch in September, make Dave Roberts look like a genius, and ensure the Mets don't make it to the World Series again this year.

Meanwhile, we've got Soto, who looks like (and has even come close to saying it out loud by throwing shade at Pete Alonso) he wishes he still were playing for the Yankees.

And, as if on cue, we've got Carlos Mendoza now trying to explain Soto:

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...s-mets-manager

Ohtani was also on a new team and on a massive contract. How many times did Dave Roberts have to justify to the press why Ohtani wasn't hustling?

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It's May. Come on.
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It's May. Come on.
Exactly. Imagine what he's going to be like when it's September and he's tired.
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People never tire of saying stupid things based on small samples.

Last May Lindor was the worst contract in baseball history. Now this May it's Soto. Next year it will be some other guy. Probably Pete.

Keeps sports radio going all day and all night.

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Same guy who says this about Soto would have been calling Judge a bum for hitting 207 over March and April last year.

If anyone needs a reminder, Judge went on to win MVP.
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Lindor was never accused of dogging it, as far as I remember. He was accused of sucking relative to his contract value, but that's different.
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People never tire of saying stupid things based on small samples.

Last May Lindor was the worst contract in baseball history. Now this May it's Soto. Next year it will be some other guy. Probably Pete.

Keeps sports radio going all day and all night.
In 46 games in 2020 Shohei hit .190. Obviously he was DOA.
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Exactly. Imagine what he's going to be like when it's September and he's tired.
He saving his energy not running out doubles...
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I’m still pissed Soto didn’t stay with the Yankees, but he will be ok. Months from now, this threat will be forgotten ⚾️
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Less then 2 months into a contract seems a bit early to be labeling it a bust....
The Mets are already over a third of the way into the season. That's starting to be significant.

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...when the guy carries a 1.6 bWAR and a 133 ops+. Those numbers aren't up to Soto's career standards, but they are far from shabby.
This though is the same guy who just signed a record setting contract. His numbers aren't exactly record setting. In fact I'd label his current .224 batting average as very disappointing. Granted I do need to give him credit for being on pace to set a personal high for stolen bases.

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Such a loser post. He and the Mets are fine.
You should post more often. We're not often treated to such rare insight.

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He's just gotten (very) unlucky. Nothing to worry about.
Methinks he needs to start hitting the ball where it's pitched to improve his "luck".

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The good news for Soto is he's got the venerable Rockies pitching staff coming up. When the White Sox are too good, you can count on the Rockies.
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