Does PSA give favoritism to certain dealers/customers?

raulus · #1 05-22-2025, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Buy 100 PSA 10s from 4SC. Resubmit them raw. See how many 10s you get. It won't be more than a handful.

Totally get this. Do you think the results would be different for PSA 10s from 4SC versus PSA 10s from some randos off the street?

I could be wrong (it's happened before), but it seems like the results would be similar, which is more an indictment of the consistency in the grading process, rather than a clear and obvious indication that 4SC is getting preferential treatment.

Peter_Spaeth · #2 05-22-2025, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by raulus

Totally get this. Do you think the results would be different for PSA 10s from 4SC versus PSA 10s from some randos off the street?

I could be wrong (it's happened before), but it seems like the results would be similar, which is more an indictment of the consistency in the grading process, rather than a clear and obvious indication that 4SC is getting preferential treatment.

The better question is, if you and 4SC submitted the same 100 raw cards, would the results differ? And don't mean to single them out, there are similarly situated sellers. Have you ever looked at their listings and recreated the subs? Do that and tell me what you think. I am not saying the cards don't deserve it, but as we all know the difference between a 9 and a 10 can be arbitrary.

If you were a business dependent on submissions, would you not make sure your biggest most important customers were happy? Of course you would.

raulus · #3 05-22-2025, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

The better question is, if you and 4SC submitted the same 100 raw cards, would the results differ? And don't mean to single them out, there are similarly situated sellers. Have you ever looked at their listings and recreated the subs? Do that and tell me what you think. I am not saying the cards don't deserve it, but as we all know the difference between a 9 and a 10 can be arbitrary.

If you were a business dependent on submissions, would you not make sure your biggest most important customers were happy? Of course you would.

Fair enough!

Now I just need to get the 4SC guys to sign up for this study.

Peter_Spaeth · #4 05-22-2025, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by raulus

Fair enough!

Now I just need to get the 4SC guys to sign up for this study.

Better yet, get them to submit your cards for you.

raulus · #5 05-22-2025, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Better yet, get them to submit your cards for you.

I honestly don't submit much. Most of what I do submit ends up being graded 1 or A. I'm guessing the outcome won't be all that different if they submit for me.

Here's a good example from my most recent submission. Pretty confident that this one will get the A.

Peter_Spaeth · #6 05-22-2025, 11:42 AM

It was just a joke.
But I don't think anyone should be surprised, the world works on the Animal Farm principle. Suppose I try to get an appointment with a famous orthopedic surgeon and am told he has a six month wait. Do you think if Jayson Tatum called they would tell him the same thing?

raulus · #7 05-22-2025, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

It was just a joke.
But I don't think anyone should be surprised, the world works on the Animal Farm principle. Suppose I try to get an appointment with a famous orthopedic surgeon and am told he has a six month wait. Do you think if Jayson Tatum called they would tell him the same thing?

I do think there are some major submitters who bundle up submissions to submit on behalf of others. Not sure if 4SC offers this service, but it wouldn't surprise me if they did.

drmondobueno · #8 05-26-2025, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

It was just a joke.
But I don't think anyone should be surprised, the world works on the Animal Farm principle. Suppose I try to get an appointment with a famous orthopedic surgeon and am told he has a six month wait. Do you think if Jayson Tatum called they would tell him the same thing?

Uh� who�s Jason Taytum? Did he trim the Honus?

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