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Old 05-28-2025, 07:06 PM
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King Kelly was a great hitter? 46 WAR to Canseco's 42. 138 OPS+ to Canseco's 132.
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King Kelly was a great hitter? 46 WAR to Canseco's 42. 138 OPS+ to Canseco's 132.
WAR is a cumulative stat. Kelly had a WAR of 46 over 1456 games; Canseco 42.4 over 1887 games——next!

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WAR is a cumulative stat. Kelly had a WAR of 46 over 1456 games; Canseco 42.4 over 7057 games——next!
Canseco has 7057 at bats. He played in 1887 games so still more than Kelly but not quite the disparity you indicated.
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LOL, my bad--sorry. I've corrected my prior post.
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If Canseco getting halfway through his 44th season before his first steroid induced heart attack isn't HOF material, I don't know what is.
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Just thought I would add probably one of the greatest all around baseball players ever. Martin Dihigo was a great hitter and better than average pitcher. Just going by his known stats from baseball reference, he was a .307 hitter with a .587 W-L % as a pitcher.
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Just thought I would add probably one of the greatest all around baseball players ever. Martin Dihigo was a great hitter and better than average pitcher. Just going by his known stats from baseball reference, he was a .307 hitter with a .587 W-L % as a pitcher.
Good point. Many of Dihigo's best seasons were spent in Mexico. My favorite season of his is 1938, when he was 18-2 with 184 strikeouts and a 0.92 ERA in 22 games for Aguila, while hitting .387 with a .599 SLG, 9 stolen bases, 26 walks, 4 strikeouts, and an OBP of .482 in 142 at-bats.

Don't know of any else with a batting average four times higher than their ERA in a full season. (I know 0.92 is larger than .387, but you know what I mean.)

For his career in Mexico he was 119-57 with a 2.84 ERA on the mound, and .317/55/370 in 1917 at-bats.

(Stats taken from The Mexican League by Pedro Treto Cisneros.)

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