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Old 05-29-2025, 10:14 PM
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Sam Rice came up as a pitcher (career ERA+ of 117) before converting to the outfield where he went on to 2,987 hits despite only playing one season before his age-29 season, due to military service and other emergencies.
At age 25, Sam Rice was primarily a pitcher with very little pro experience when Clark Griffith acquired him in late July 1915 from the Petersburg Goobers of the Class C Virginia State League in exchange for a debt owed to Griffith that the financially strapped team was unable to pay. The following is from SABR's bio of Rice:

"In his second major league outing, on August 10, Rice set the Detroit Tigers down in order in two more innings of relief. According to the Washington Post, Rice looked good against the Tigers. 'He got Ty Cobb on a sickly fly to left, fanned Sam Crawford and Bobby Veach, and caused George Burns to foul out. Any time a pitcher can dispose of this quartet so easily, he must have something other than a glove and a pleasant smile.

Rice followed his two successful relief appearances with a start on September 7, pitching a complete game against the Philadelphia Athletics in which he recorded his only win as a major league pitcher. He gave up two runs on five hits and four walks against the A’s ...' "

After being used sparingly as a pitcher, Rich became a full-time outfielder in July 1916, hitting .299 in 197 at bats for the year, and the rest is history. His 2-year pitching record is 9 games, 39.1 innings pitched, a W-L record of 1-1, and an ERA of 2.52. Here's another one of Sam's rookie cards:
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Here's a photo of Ted Williams pitching against the Tigers, that just showed up on ebay:

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Wow - great photo of Ted pitching in the game!
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Jim O’Rourke and Buck Ewing also pitched
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I remember Bert “Campy” Campaneris and César Tovar playing all nine positions in one game and distinctly remember the back of this card.
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Wow - great photo of Ted pitching in the game!
To be honest, it took me a while to understand that Ted's 1959 Fleer set includes this card of him pitching. I had assumed he was in the outfield somewhere, since it shows a righthanded hitter. :-)
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Default Ted Williams Pitching

Ted was a pitcher in high school. Here is a photo of him pitching for Hoover High: https://sabr.org/sabr-rucker-archive/willite01_127/

Below is a postcard on sale on eBay.
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In that game on August 24, 1940, the Tigers won 12-1 over the Red Sox.

Rudy York went 4 for 6, with 3 runs and 5 RBIs and a home run.

Of the two outs York made, one was being called out on strikes against Ted Williams.
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