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Originally Posted by John1941
Cox only won one world series, but he won five NL pennants and won 100 games five times. He won 2504 games as a manager - fourth all time. His teams were consistently excellent.
Saying he shouldn't be a hall of famer because he only won one WS is a little like saying Connie Mack shouldn't be a hall of famer because he had a .486 career winning percentage.
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I consider it to be more of a question of what makes you a HOF manager? And what makes one person one but another isn't? I don't think anyone can seriously say the Braves of the 90s were good because they had Bobby Cox anymore than it can be said the Yankees of the 90s were good because they had Joe Torre. But the difference is that Torre won and Cox didn't.
The feeling in NY has always been that anyone could have managed those teams but Torre benefitted from being the guy who did. Is there much of a difference when you look at the teams Cox was managing?
Why is Jim Leyland a HOFer but Billy Martin isn’t? There doesn’t seem to be common criteria for managers.
05-30-2025, 02:28 PM
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