Morehouse 2.0 - new discovery

[Belfast1933]

As I shared here last Fall, we were lucky enough to have had the dream Yard Sale experience last summer which turned into a newly discovered 1916 M101. Morehouse Ruth Red Sox rookie card (plus Jackson, Thorpe and other HOFers)

That experience was really a blast - tons of mainstream, non hobby media coverage which turned into quite a few really nice collection/consignments coming our way.

And among them now is another Morehouse Baking find of cards, as many here predicted might happen - a local man had a shoebox full of cards that were passed down to him and he figured they had value. But he had no idea how much until the Morehouse 1.0 find hit the news. He reached out to me to ask for advice and he decided in the end to consign his big boy cards to Heritage which come out this summer.

But thankfully, I am not missing out totally in the fun - he decided to consign about 90 of the cards to us and we’ll be direct selling them in about a week. About 30 just came back with strong grades from SGC and many are now pop 1, believe it or not.

We’re working out details of our sales strategy and expect to have them all fully priced and available late next week. I’ll surely post them here too in BST.

Moral of the story is that there are definitely still amazing cards still out there in the wild.. I guess you just have an old school yard sale and wait for lighting to strike

Man, I just love this hobby!

[tiger8mush]

another neat collection, congrats and thanks for sharing!

[mrreality68]

That is awesome

Congrats

Just be careful of to many new finds and they may no longer by rare

[Belfast1933]

Originally Posted by mrreality68

That is awesome

Congrats

Just be careful of to many new finds and they may no longer by rare

Statistically true! The population of a few of these did just double (from pop 1 to pop 2 &#128526

[bandrus1]

Originally Posted by Belfast1933

Statistically true! The population of a few of these did just double (from pop 1 to pop 2 &#128526

Well now I don't want them anymore hahah

[Leon]

Maybe I will pick one up this time or wait for Morehouse 3.0!!
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[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by Leon

Maybe I will pick one up this time or wait for Morehouse 3.0!!
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probably better to wait for 3.0
Because if the population doubles from 2 to 4 with twice the supply it will half the demand and thus drive the prices sharply down

[BRoberts]

Originally Posted by Belfast1933

But thankfully, I am not missing out totally in the fun - he decided to consign about 90 of the cards to us and we’ll be direct selling them in about a week. About 30 just came back with strong grades from SGC and many are now pop 1, believe it or not.

We’re working out details of our sales strategy and expect to have them all fully priced and available late next week. I’ll surely post them here too in BST.

Moral of the story is that there are definitely still amazing cards still out there in the wild.. I guess you just have an old school yard sale and wait for lighting to strike

Man, I just love this hobby!

Nice job getting them to SGC.

[samosa4u]

Originally Posted by Leon

Maybe I will pick one up this time or wait for Morehouse 3.0!!
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There will be a Morehouse 3.0 and a 4.0 and a 5.0 and they'll all contact Jeff Gross.

[ValKehl]

Jeff, congrats on your key involvement in both discoveries of D352 Morehouse Baking cards. Unfortunately, Morehouse #2 burst my balloon. I say this because I've relished having this rare 1-of-1 Morehouse card of WaJo (per the pop reports) for 25+ years. I was so happy that the Morehouse #! find didn't include a WaJo. But apparently, Morehouse #2 did include a WaJo, as a WaJo now appears in the PSA pop report, and I assume it is one of the "big boy cards" that the Morehouse #2 finder has consigned to Heritage. If so, I imagine that Heritage will promote it as the only known Morehouse WaJo, but any Net54 member who bids on it will know there are at least two examples in existence.

[notfast]

Edit, i cant read. I see this is the same find as the Heritage one

[oldjudge]

Val—I’m sure the HA copy won’t be as nice as yours. Apparently, this group has another Ruth, albeit with a heavy crease through the middle from what I have been told, and a few Wagners. Still no Cobb though from what I have heard.

[Belfast1933]

Originally Posted by ValKehl

Jeff, congrats on your key involvement in both discoveries of D352 Morehouse Baking cards. Unfortunately, Morehouse #2 burst my balloon. I say this because I've relished having this rare 1-of-1 Morehouse card of WaJo (per the pop reports) for 25+ years. I was so happy that the Morehouse #! find didn't include a WaJo. But apparently, Morehouse #2 did include a WaJo, as a WaJo now appears in the PSA pop report, and I assume it is one of the "big boy cards" that the Morehouse #2 finder has consigned to Heritage. If so, I imagine that Heritage will promote it as the only known Morehouse WaJo, but any Net54 member who bids on it will know there are at least two examples in existence.

Hey Val

I remember you asking about WaJo in the first Morehouse find and I was so happy for you to know that you still had the one/only. When I had the chance to see these, I saw the Johnson and thought of you again.

But yours is still amazing, beautiful and was a 1/1 for a very long time… king of the hill for 2 and 1/2 decades! And now, it’s still likely the best one (and only one of two, still amazingly rare)

There may be more still to follow - but there will never be another 1 of 1 WaJo. Yours had and got to retire that moniker!

Jeff

[ValKehl]

Thanks, Jay and Jeff, for your most kind words. The newly listed example in the PSA pop report is a PSA 3. As we are aware, what gets a 3 grade from PSA these day used to get a 4 or 5 grade. So, I have to think that the newly discovered example is nicer than mine. But, it's all part of collecting, which is such great fun.

[molenick]

Don't have one and probably never will, but reading the offer on the back, I like that you just had to show 50 different cards to get the prize and did not have to trade them in.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by molenick

Don't have one and probably never will, but reading the offer on the back, I like that you just had to show 50 different cards to get the prize and did not have to trade them in.

Also, as most know, distributors (not D352 necessarily) would cancel cards (cuts, tears, stamps etc..) then send them back. I guess it's debatable if those are even defects to me! Maybe they are to graders, most times, but they have gotten a little better.


SGC used to label these D382s this way but I don't know if they still would.

[parkplace33]

Originally Posted by ValKehl

Thanks, Jay and Jeff, for your most kind words. The newly listed example in the PSA pop report is a PSA 3. As we are aware, what gets a 3 grade from PSA these day used to get a 4 or 5 grade. So, I have to think that the newly discovered example is nicer than mine. But, it's all part of collecting, which is such great fun.

I look at it a different way. With this sale, you will have a price point on your example when you decide to sell. Hard to value 1 of 1 cards sometimes.

[ValKehl]

Originally Posted by parkplace33

I look at it a different way. With this sale, you will have a price point on your example when you decide to sell. Hard to value 1 of 1 cards sometimes.

Drew, thanks for your interesting point of view. But, truth be told, I'd rather have a 1-of-1 WaJo card than a price point. I plan to keep this card until I pass, at which time my wife (presumably, as she is younger and in better health) will consign it to an auction house.

[nolemmings]

Originally Posted by ValKehl

Drew, thanks for your interesting point of view. But, truth be told, I'd rather have a 1-of-1 WaJo card than a price point. I plan to keep this card until I pass, at which time my wife (presumably, as she is younger and in better health) will consign it to an auction house.

Val, the solution is simple-- I'm surprised you haven't mentioned it. Win the auction of the other WaJo and then have a 2-of-2 card. All will hail you
BTW, how will you feel when another Morehouse WaJo pops up-- with card #91 instead of #90? Must have? Seems just a matter of time given the frequency that the Morehouse ad back is being uncovered.

[Belfast1933]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

Val, the solution is simple-- I'm surprised you haven't mentioned it. Win the auction of the other WaJo and then have a 2-of-2 card. All will hail you
BTW, how will you feel when another Morehouse WaJo pops up-- with card #91 instead of #90? Must have? Seems just a matter of time given the frequency that the Morehouse ad back is being uncovered.

Todd, can you explain why the numbering of the cards has two Johnson’s with different numbers?

[edhans]

M101-4 and M101-5 have different numbering. The Morehouse cards are found with both.

[ValKehl]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

Val, the solution is simple-- I'm surprised you haven't mentioned it. Win the auction of the other WaJo and then have a 2-of-2 card. All will hail you
BTW, how will you feel when another Morehouse WaJo pops up-- with card #91 instead of #90? Must have? Seems just a matter of time given the frequency that the Morehouse ad back is being uncovered.

Todd, just because I didn't mention going after this new-to-the-hobby WaJo in order to have a 2-of-2 card doesn't mean I haven't been thinking of doing this.

And yes, a Morehouse #91 of WaJo would be a must have card!

[parkplace33]

Originally Posted by ValKehl

Jeff, congrats on your key involvement in both discoveries of D352 Morehouse Baking cards. Unfortunately, Morehouse #2 burst my balloon. I say this because I've relished having this rare 1-of-1 Morehouse card of WaJo (per the pop reports) for 25+ years. I was so happy that the Morehouse #! find didn't include a WaJo. But apparently, Morehouse #2 did include a WaJo, as a WaJo now appears in the PSA pop report, and I assume it is one of the "big boy cards" that the Morehouse #2 finder has consigned to Heritage. If so, I imagine that Heritage will promote it as the only known Morehouse WaJo, but any Net54 member who bids on it will know there are at least two examples in existence.

Val, forgot to mention, great looking example. I am not familiar with the backstory, how did you obtain it?

[ValKehl]

Originally Posted by parkplace33

Val, forgot to mention, great looking example. I am not familiar with the backstory, how did you obtain it?

Drew, I acquired this Morehouse card of WaJo roughly 25-30 years ago. This was before I began keeping detailed records of when and where I picked up key cards, but I'm fairly certain it would have been at a card show in the DC area.

There is a very, very long time collector in the DC area whom I have known for 25-30+ years. He began collecting pre-War cards sometime around the late 1970's, I believe. Sadly (for him), he was (and still is) constantly churning his collection, often via trades with local dealers. In 2013, he gave me a hand-written list of the incredible WaJo, Ruth, Cobb, Wagner, etc. cards he once owned, and the Morehouse WaJo is on this list (along with other WaJos such as Boston Garter, T204, Texas Tommy, Vassar Sweater, Ware's Basemant, Indianapolis Brewing, Oakland Tribune, T215-2 Red Cross, Baseball Bats, Holland Creameries, etc.). I acquired some of these other WaJo cards at local card shows after this collector had traded them away.