Shoeless Joe Jackson Auto- Fake?

BillyCoxDodgers3B · #1 06-13-2025, 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThomasL

He literally testified that he could not write his name until 1915...this photo predates that...this was written by the photographer most likely

If someone didn't yet know how to sign their name, how is it that somebody else signing on their behalf would so closely mirror a signature that the person in question hadn't even devised? It's too ridiculous to even consider. There's something else at play here.

The most generous theory would be that yes, Jackson signed the photo sometime later on, then someone else added the location and (approximate) date of when and where it was originally taken.

Again, I'll add the caveat that I have only examined high res scans of the piece. Going solely from that, I also dislike what appears to be zero aging to the ink, or how the ink sits on the photo.

campyfan39 · #2 06-13-2025, 07:08 PM

I am not a prewar collector nor an autograph collector. That said, this is the most logical take I have seen.
I believe the auto is authentic but was not acquired in 1911.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyCoxDodgers3B

If someone didn't yet know how to sign their name, how is it that somebody else signing on their behalf would so closely mirror a signature that the person in question hadn't even devised? It's too ridiculous to even consider. There's something else at play here.

The most generous theory would be that yes, Jackson signed the photo sometime later on, then someone else added the location and (approximate) date of when and where it was originally taken.

Again, I'll add the caveat that I have only examined high res scans of the piece. Going solely from that, I also dislike what appears to be zero aging to the ink, or how the ink sits on the photo.

jad22 · #3 06-14-2025, 12:09 PM

Wasn’t the entire collection this came from 1911 and many were dated as that

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