T202 End Panel frequency list and how it relates to T206

[molenick]

Thanks everyone for the research! It does sound familiar that Yankees was used "unofficially" before it was official.

Curious that they went with an exhibition performance rather than say "won 37 games in 1908" or "retroactively led league in WAR the past four seasons."

I guess striking out 14 batters in a game was bigger news than winning 30 games (ho hum) in those days.

[marcdelpercio]

I've always been intrigued by the Blair, Devlin (Rustlers), and Wood panels as these are the only 3 out of 144 designs not included in the T205 set, whereas all the others share nearly identical artwork to their T205 counterparts. This is especially interesting as the backs of the T205s advertise "400 Designs" which, of course, is far greater than what was actually produced. I am aware of the many theories as to why this discrepancy exists, but I can't help but to wonder if Blair, Devlin, and Wood (along with many others) were at some point intended to be a part of the T205 set and somehow snuck into the T202s.

Great research as always, Brian!

[nolemmings]

Originally Posted by marcdelpercio

I've always been intrigued by the Blair, Devlin (Rustlers), and Wood panels as these are the only 3 out of 144 designs not included in the T205 set, whereas all the others share nearly identical artwork to their T205 counterparts. This is especially interesting as the backs of the T205s advertise "400 Designs" which, of course, is far greater than what was actually produced. I am aware of the many theories as to why this discrepancy exists, but I can't help but to wonder if Blair, Devlin, and Wood (along with many others) were at some point intended to be a part of the T205 set and somehow snuck into the T202s.

Great research as always, Brian!

Actually Devlin is in the T205 set, just not as a Rustler, a team he did not join until 1912. I don't know about Wood, but Blair likely was not intended for a T205 release because he had only played 6 games in the Bigs during 1910. Catching half the games for NY in 1911 probably earned him a spot in T202, but ironically, he was sent to Rochester after the 1911 season as his T202 card notes, so arguably he belongs in neither set.

[marcdelpercio]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

Actually Devlin is in the T205 set, just not as a Rustler, a team he did not join until 1912. I don't know about Wood, but Blair likely was not intended for a T205 release because he had only played 6 games in the Bigs during 1910. Catching half the games for NY in 1911 probably earned him a spot in T202, but ironically, he was sent to Rochester after the 1911 season as his T202 card notes, so arguably he belongs in neither set.

Yes, Devlin (Giants) is in the T205 set, but not Devlin (Rustlers). Interestingly, the other two T205 Subjects that have multiple team variations (Graham and Shean) are also both pictured with the Rustlers in one of those variations. The fact that Devlin did not join the Rustlers until 1912 further points to the possibility that there may have been many more T205 subjects (with "T205" artwork obviously completed for at least these three) that were intended to be produced later in the print run, into 1912 perhaps, but never were for whatever reason, leaving the final subject count well short of the 400 number advertised.

[Yoda]

Originally Posted by marcdelpercio

Yes, Devlin (Giants) is in the T205 set, but not Devlin (Rustlers). Interestingly, the other two T205 Subjects that have multiple team variations (Graham and Shean) are also both pictured with the Rustlers in one of those variations. The fact that Devlin did not join the Rustlers until 1912 further points to the possibility that there may have been many more T205 subjects (with "T205" artwork obviously completed for at least these three) that were intended to be produced later in the print run, into 1912 perhaps, but never were for whatever reason, leaving the final subject count well short of the 400 number advertised.

Yes, Devlin Rustlers is on a card end panel, Matty is on the other, the card being 'Too Late for Devlin.' I mention this because the center panel, many believe, is Joe Jackson. I know this has been discussed many times, but I don't know if it has ever been confirmed that it is indeed the "Shoeless One."