If You Collect Scorecards or Programs, Show 'em Here!

[Cody77]

I don’t specifically try to collect scorecards unless the cover has a star player and/or is just really cool like this 1906 Giants scorecard from a game with Brooklyn and showcases the 1905 World Series champion Giants in a horse drawn carriage!

[Scott Garner]

Originally Posted by Cody77

I don’t specifically try to collect scorecards unless the cover has a star player and/or is just really cool like this 1906 Giants scorecard from a game with Brooklyn and showcases the 1905 World Series champion Giants in a horse drawn carriage!

Looks like a Hooks Wiltse vs. Mal Eason pitching duel.
Very cool scorebook! Thanks for sharing!

[bigfanNY]

Great scorecard Cody!! Thanks for Sharing. The Scorecards from the NY Giants just after the Turn of the century all display well. Pictured are 2 from 1904 as you can see the player photos on the front rotated. The 1905 is from Opening day with Iron Man McGinnity on the mound. My 1906 is from 8/4/1906 Matty pitched and won vs the Cubs. And finally 1897 Giants. I love the cover ( despite a couple of stains) and the game was Giants vs the Spiders with Cy Young on the mound. ( he took the loss).

[parker1b2]

Found in an old filing cabinet a few years ago by my father, and given to me. His program from Reds vs Mets July 25, 1978 when Pete Rose hits safely in his 38th continuous game breaking the NL hitting streak record of 37 in a row by Tommy Holmes. Scored by my dad, even circling the hit Rose had in the 3rd to break the record.

[HankAaron755]

Question for the Forum - Can one state a significant event is attached to a program if it was not made for a specific game and time, but rather a series?

Example - In the 1970s and 80s, clubs put out programs for series against specific team(s). Let's say a significant event happened in that series such as a 500th Home Run or MLB Debut happened. Since the program was not for that particular game, but rather a 3 game series, is it ethical to state it's attached to the milestone game? Thinking of programs that have their internal scorecards blank rather then filled out at the time of the specific game.

Not sure what the industry norm is, so would like to know your feedback.

[Swadewade51]

Originally Posted by HankAaron755

Question for the Forum - Can one state a significant event is attached to a program if it was not made for a specific game and time, but rather a series?

Example - In the 1970s and 80s, clubs put out programs for series against specific team(s). Let's say a significant event happened in that series such as a 500th Home Run or MLB Debut happened. Since the program was not for that particular game, but rather a 3 game series, is it ethical to state it's attached to the milestone game? Thinking of programs that have their internal scorecards blank rather then filled out at the time of the specific game.

Not sure what the industry norm is, so would like to know your feedback.

Conflating the value of an unscored program because it *could* be attached to an event is a bit weird. I usually just roll my eyes when I see a 48 World Series Indians program with "Doby HR" in the listing title and it's not scored. That feels a bit grifty to me but everyone has different threshold for that sort of thing.

That's all personal feelings though.

There is no industry standard and you can do what you want. If tying it to the series is the best you can do,just list it as such.

[bigfanNY]

Having collected scorecards for a bit. Unscored programs that "COULD BE" from a milestone game are treated very differently by the marketplace. Scored programs sell for a significant premium over Unscored..."Could be" versions. That said if a program itself is scarce and on alot of wantlists once and awhile a couple of collectors fighting it out in an auction happens.

[HankAaron755]

Originally Posted by Swadewade51

Conflating the value of an unscored program because it *could* be attached to an event is a bit weird. I usually just roll my eyes when I see a 48 World Series Indians program with "Doby HR" in the listing title and it's not scored. That feels a bit grifty to me but everyone has different threshold for that sort of thing.

That's all personal feelings though.

There is no industry standard and you can do what you want. If tying it to the series is the best you can do,just list it as such.

I think listing it as a series is my best bet. Have a handful of pieces I've collected over the years that fall under this category. I'll let the buyer decide if they want it, but not really within my moral compass to deceive someone if it's not plane as day tied to a significant event.

[puckpaul]

Originally Posted by parker1b2

Found in an old filing cabinet a few years ago by my father, and given to me. His program from Reds vs Mets July 25, 1978 when Pete Rose hits safely in his 38th continuous game breaking the NL hitting streak record of 37 in a row by Tommy Holmes. Scored by my dad, even circling the hit Rose had in the 3rd to break the record.

Those Mets were SO bad….what a lineup. Yikes.

[HankAaron755]

Hi All - I need some advice on if getting a program autographed is worth the investment of purchasing a players signature.

I have a handful of 1978 opening day weekend programs that featured the Giants vs. Padres. The significance of this program is Ozzie Smith’s MLB debut occurred during this series.

While none of the programs are scored, which means I can’t state for certain if the program is aligned with his debut, I know they are from the series in which he debuted.

If I were to get him to autograph these programs, would collectors actually purchase them for above the cost of obtaining his signature (around $100)? I’ll be keeping one for myself, but just curious what others thought the value may be worth?

For comparison, the same program that was scored from his debut game and signed “MLB Debut” by Ozzie sold on eBay this summer for $500.

[doug.goodman]

I'm probably not the best person to answer your question, because I only collect scored programs and I don't particularly care for autographs, but...

I believe you are asking if a signed program that can be pinpointed to a particular series, but not necessarily a particular game, could potentially be worth the same as a signed program from the particular game?

I think you already know the answer to your question.

Doug


PS - while I appreciate the 'value' of a major league debut program, an argument could be made that a major league first hit program has similar, or possibly greater, value.