Juan Soto -- looking like a bust for the Mets

[Balticfox]

Congratulations! You've finally shown yourself capable of addressing the the points of contention (even if you did use a "few" more than 100 words). A bit late now after your previous gratuitous jibes:

Originally Posted by cgjackson222

This post is nonsensical.

Last, do you end all of your posts with "" because you think your posts are clever or funny?

Originally Posted by cgjackson222

Wow, that was a lot of effort on your part.

So what exactly is the point you are trying to make (in less than 100 words)?

I guess for whatever reason you decided to make me your enemy first. Okay. So be it.

Originally Posted by cgjackson222

As for your musings (without any evidence)....

My "musings" (as you put it) consisted of asking Mets fans whether there was evidence. Asking is considered to be reasonable in most circles.

Originally Posted by cgjackson222

I don't think it is any secret why Juan Soto set a record contract.

Not by any means a secret. The signing was clearly an ego trip on the part of an owner to whom money is no object.

But it's bad for the team on a longer term basis (after several months of a season anyway). The contract becomes a cancer in the locker room. How is a manager going to discipline a player with that type of contract when he's not producing or even dogging it? He can't be pencilled out of the lineup because the club has too great of an investment in the player. Just by yelling at him or kicking his butt then? That doesn't much work on today's superstars. And then the other players start wondering why the pampered superstar is earning 25X the money when he's not 25x better. Like I say, that type of contract is a cancer in the locker room.

It's also bad for fans. How/why? Because the Juan Soto signing is going to fuel further player salary inflation which will in turn result in ticket and concession price inflation.

I know, I know, some of you will object by saying that will only be so if other owners follow suit. But they'll have to follow suit. The last time the owners decided not to bid up salaries by chasing free agents, the courts in their "wisdom" ruled collusion thus dictating that owners must bid ever higher for star players or risk jail as well as fines. And that's not been good for the fans or MLB in general.

[Snapolit1]

Every night on the Mets broadcast they show some insane statistic about how Juan Soto's productivity at his age is like top 5 in baseball history at some metric, how he's just behind Jimmy Foxx in something. To minimize what this guy has accomplished at his age and deny that he is a generational talent just shows your absolute ignorance.

https://sports.yahoo.com/article/met...014415078.html

https://www.si.com/mlb/mets/news/met...-club-michael9

https://www.si.com/fannation/mlb/fas...-new-york-mets

[Balticfox]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Every night on the Mets broadcast they show some insane statistic about how Juan Soto's productivity at his age is like top 5 in baseball history at some metric, how he's just behind Jimmy Foxx in something. To minimize what this guy has accomplished at his age and deny that he is a generational talent just shows your absolute ignorance.

On the Mets broadcasts you say? How about on any or all the others then?

Granted, there's no denying that Juan Soto has already had some excellent seasons. None of those helps the Mets this year though and it looks to me (and many others) as if his early success has gone to his head and that his production is already on a downward path.

Now you as a dyed-in-the-wool Mets fan may be cheering for Soto and the Mets to succeed. Keep in mind though that Soto being on the team has made the Mets a far less sympathetic team (the anti-Yankees) to the rest of the country. Last year I was cheering hard for the Mets against the Los Angeles Dodgers. This year I don't know for which of the two I'll cheer should they meet. I'd much prefer that the Phillies, Cardinals, Giants or even the Padres emerge victorious in the NL though.

[cgjackson222]

Originally Posted by Balticfox

Congratulations! You've finally shown yourself capable of addressing the the points of contention (even if you did use a "few" more than 100 words). A bit late now after your previous gratuitous jibes:





I guess for whatever reason you decided to make me your enemy first. Okay. So be it.



My "musings" (as you put it) consisted of asking Mets fans whether there was evidence. Asking is considered to be reasonable in most circles.



Not by any means a secret. The signing was clearly an ego trip on the part of an owner to whom money is no object.

But it's bad for the team on a longer term basis (after several months of a season anyway). The contract becomes a cancer in the locker room. How is a manager going to discipline a player with that type of contract when he's not producing or even dogging it? He can't be pencilled out of the lineup because the club has too great of an investment in the player. Just by yelling at him or kicking his butt then? That doesn't much work on today's superstars. And then the other players start wondering why the pampered superstar is earning 25X the money when he's not 25x better. Like I say, that type of contract is a cancer in the locker room.

It's also bad for fans. How/why? Because the Juan Soto signing is going to fuel further player salary inflation which will in turn result in ticket and concession price inflation.

I know, I know, some of you will object by saying that will only be so if other owners follow suit. But they'll have to follow suit. The last time the owners decided not to bid up salaries by chasing free agents, the courts in their "wisdom" ruled collusion thus dictating that owners must bid ever higher for star players or risk jail as well as fines. And that's not been good for the fans or MLB in general.

So you are anti-free-agency?

[Balticfox]

Originally Posted by cgjackson222

So you are anti-free-agency?

Of course! I hate the musical chairs game of players' movement! I grew up when a Yankee was a Yankee, a Cardinal was a Cardinal and a Dodger was a Dodger. Moreover I really dislike how the big spending, big market teams are now slowly coming to dominate baseball. How can I not?

[cgjackson222]

Originally Posted by Balticfox

Of course! I hate the musical chairs game of players' movement! I grew up when a Yankee was a Yankee, a Cardinal was a Cardinal and a Dodger was a Dodger. Moreover I really dislike how the big spending, big market teams are now slowly coming to dominate baseball. How can I not?

I have wasted too much time with your posts. Blocked

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by cgjackson222

I have wasted too much time with your posts. Blocked

In 8 or 9 years, I have blocked 4 people. He was blocked in record speed.

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by cgjackson222

I have wasted too much time with your posts. Blocked

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

In 8 or 9 years, I have blocked 4 people. He was blocked in record speed.

How do you block someone?

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by jayshum

How do you block someone?

Can I block posts, emails and messages from specific users?

If there are particular members that bother you and you do not want to see their posts or receive Private Messages and Emails from them, then you can add these members to your 'Ignore List'. There are several ways to do this:

Through your User Control Panel: User CP, Settings & Options, Edit Ignore List. Then, type their name into the empty text box and click 'Okay'.