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Old 06-24-2025, 07:30 AM
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Thanks, Jeff. Finally, someone has made a point that I can grasp and latch on to. Us long-time COLLECTORS controlled our spending just fine for many years but today’s post-COVID world has brought in countless individuals primarily looking to make a buck (or a million) and have brought the irresponsible spending into the hobby. Thus, those with the financial resources to do it, are forced to up their ante in order to keep collecting what they like, just costs a lot more for everything. In the meantime, the rest of us have to sit back and watch from afar and can only dream about acquiring a really big card like the ‘15 Ruth. 10 years ago that was a $10K or so card before the escalation started around 2015, much earlier than just about anything else. I guess at that time, the card had been severely undervalued. Just about the same time that the Gehrig exhibit exploded. Since then, the Gehrig has tailed off somewhat while the Ruth continues to escalate. Based on the “card” theory, how does the Gehrig exhibit become $100K in the first place, it’s basically a postcard.

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Old 06-24-2025, 07:56 AM
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Some Great points and the gap should be there but it should be less
But another factor is supply/demand

The early ruth cards are not very many and do not have alot of quantity

Cobb seems to have a ton of different Cards, Postcards, etc and many of them have a ton of quantity

So even though there are limited quantities of some cards there is so many alternates for collectors/investors to choose from for Cobb vs the Ruth
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Old 06-24-2025, 08:38 AM
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There’s actually much fewer examples of the 1906 Tigers W601 PC which is the “true” Cobb rookie than the 1915 Red Sox PCs with Ruth.
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Old 06-24-2025, 08:42 AM
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There’s actually much fewer examples of the 1906 Tigers W601 PC which is the “true” Cobb rookie than the 1915 Red Sox PCs with Ruth.
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I 100% agree and if I stated my point wrong I appologize
my point was there are so many different type of early Cobb Cards, Postcards, and supplements etc. vs the number of types of early Ruth Card, Postcards etc
That it is easy to get something early Cobb item.

There are very few early 1915 or 1916 or even 1917 Ruth Cards vs all the Early
1905-1909 Cobb Items
Think of how many items are Called a "Cobb Rookie Card" vs the number of items called the "Ruth Rookie Card"
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1917-20 Felix Mendelssohn Babe Ruth
1921 Frederick Foto Ruth
Rare early Ruth Cards and Postcards
Rare early Joe Jackson Cards and Postcards
1910 Old Mills Joe Jackson
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Phil--the market is what the market is. We are all priced out of some cards we might like. Appreciate what you can buy and stop whining about what you can't. The constitution guarantees a lot of things, but baseball cards is not one of them.
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simple short answer that others have already mentioned...

1905 w601 is a premium vs 1915 Red Sox PC is a postcard (which is much closer to a traditional baseball card and thus more in demand)

A better comparison for the w601 might be this 1915 Red Sox Premium which I bought on ebay for $300 years ago

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Disagree. W601 is from a catalogued set with a print run of 10 years like the W600 Wagner that also sold for a ridiculous price. Both were forms of advertising for their maker, Sporting Life. Both of those ‘15 Red Sox team items are not catalogued, not part of any set and not advertising vehicles. The lack of all three of those things should have a negative effect on value, but apparently it does not.

Would love to see some support from others who cannot afford to play in this space as currently construed. Or is everyone else loaded and it’s just me that can’t afford any of this? Then I should just go back and find another hobby if this one doesn’t work for me any longer and when everyone else is fine with things being the way they are.

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... A better comparison for the w601 might be this 1915 Red Sox Premium which I bought on ebay for $300 years ago

Or this m113 poster
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