Current '63 Rose at Greg Morris eBay

[deweyinthehall]

It could be that I am simply out of touch with the current marketplace, even though I just completed a run of 65-68 Topps sets over the last 4 years.

And I know the quality of the cards listed by GM - I've used his site as one of the primary means of completing those sets.

BUT - with a day and a half left, this raw Rose rookie is sitting above $5K?

I THINK I see some wear on the bottom left corner, and a couple tiny spots of white around the blue, plus there's the color registration issue that has produced a thin green band between the yellow and blue.

All that nit-picking aside - it will be interesting to see how high this goes.

But even in today's market, does this seem a bit overboard? I plan on completing a '64 set by the spring, and then will turn to '63 - oh, my.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/136177120896

[raulus]

Well, seems like a PSA 7 would sell for about that price range these days.

So maybe it’s not too far off? Just a question of whether you really think it could get a 7. Maybe some of the bidders are thinking it might even get a 7.5 or 8 with the centering.

For my money, I’d rather just buy one already graded. With my luck, it would come back at PSA 5.

[deweyinthehall]

The sets I build, SGC 4-5 is usually a very nice condition, and those seem to be getting 1500-2200 or so, so when it comes to needed to get one in a couple years or so, hopefully things will have remained as-is, or perhaps even settled down a bit.

[rand1com]

Looks like a solid 7 to me. He sold a PSA 7 a few months ago for $5300. I would prefer to have it over this one but as previously stated, maybe bidder is hoping for 7.5, No way it gets an 8 in today's world although you might find an 8 graded 10 years ago that looks worse.

[GasHouseGang]

With my luck, I would never buy something assuming that the card is going to grade a PSA7. If I wanted a PSA7 I would just buy one already graded and pay a bit extra to be sure.

[deweyinthehall]

Well, it went for $5,700.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/136177120896

[steve B]

Screen shots would probably be better than links going forward.

The link redirects to a totally different example from a different seller.

[deweyinthehall]

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[jchcollins]

It’s certainly a nice looking card, but if buying for my PC these days and not just simply taking a huge gamble - I don’t know why anyone would buy a card of that magnitude not already in a reputable slab.

I guess the risk is limited enough in that it would have to go through eBay authentication and eBay would have to agree with the description - but still. What if both Greg Morris and eBay concur it’s a NM or higher card, and then PSA calls it Minsize?

Too much drama for my blood. I’m very content with this card in my SGC 4 holder, LOL.


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[deweyinthehall]

When I start actively looking for one, it'll be in an SGC 4 holder as well...

[JollyElm]

Looking at the PSA Auction Prices Realized site, four PSA 7s sold (I assume on eBay) this year:

May 23, 2025 eBay Auction 07008723 7 $5,300.00
May 17, 2025 eBay Auction 06280652 7 $4,700.00
Feb 4, 2025 eBay Auction 20692694 7 $3,950.00
Jan 16, 2025 eBay Auction 40856438 7 $1,225.00

Based on this limited data, the card/grade continues to trend upwards, and the buyer bought the one in question for $400 more than the highest price AND that amount doesn't take into account the (I assume) massive grading fees to come.

The only logical conclusion that makes sense is the buyer must truly believe he'll be looking at a PSA 8.

With a PSA 7 (and perhaps a little time), he'll basically break even.

Anything lower than a PSA 7?? Bend over, baby!!

It's just more gambling, like everything else surrounding baseball.

[fogmaster]

I have lurked on the Greg Morris site and find nearly all their prices are way too much for big cards. For sure no way I drop 5k on a Rose without it being in a slab!

[stkuhl]

Agreed on the high prices on stars with Greg Morris. I have been slowly working on mid 60s Topps Baseball sets and Prices for minor stars and commons has been pretty good with Greg but not at all with stars.

[mintacular]

My guess is top left "touched up" blue. The wear on that corner there should be white showing. If this card was grade-able it likely would have been done so. My suspicion is that someone got it returned altered from TPG and figured Greg Morris raw sale could slip through the cracks. JMO

[Zach Wheat]

Originally Posted by jchcollins

It’s certainly a nice looking card, but if buying for my PC these days and not just simply taking a huge gamble - I don’t know why anyone would buy a card of that magnitude not already in a reputable slab.

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I agree with you - it's a huge gamble.

[Harliduck]

Originally Posted by mintacular

My guess is top left "touched up" blue. The wear on that corner there should be white showing. If this card was grade-able it likely would have been done so. My suspicion is that someone got it returned altered from TPG and figured Greg Morris raw sale could slip through the cracks. JMO

100% agree here Pat...that corner looks touched up. I'd bet money it's a altered return...and the seller made a very wise decision to max it out through GM. Yikes to the buyer.

I'll agree with others, I'm please with my SGC 4 that's already slabbed. I'm not a huge "graded" guy...and the Rose is my only 1960's graded card...but it's one of a few cards I would never buy raw. No way...

It sure is nice though...lol

[Gorditadogg]

Heh, just scrolling through some old posts and saw this. Just FYI, I bid on this card. Didn't win it, though.

I wasn't planning to get it graded. I am fine with Ebay's authentication process, especially when it starts with Greg Morris' graders.

I have several raw cards in that price range. I should find a couple and put them up, so you guys can tell me if they've been altered.


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[raulus]

Originally Posted by Gorditadogg

I have several raw cards in that price range. I should find a couple and put them up, so you guys can tell me if they've been altered.


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[ASF123]

Originally Posted by gorditadogg

i have several raw cards in that price range. I should find a couple and put them up, so you guys can tell me if that they've been altered.

ftfy

[Gorditadogg]

Originally Posted by ASF123

ftfy

Haha, I like it!

Here is the first card for review. Bought it on Ebay from Greg Morris, went through the authentication process. Let me know if they missed anything. (I assume it is over-graded and is not NM but really is VG.)

[ASF123]

[Greek Chorus]: TRIMMED!!