WNBA Madness

[oldjudge]

Hi Phil! No questions, Clark had a great rookie season. She set the record for assists in a game and set the season record for assists. However, the latter deserves an asterisk as the WNBA has been increasing the number of games in the season over the last few years. It went from 34 to where it currently stands at 44. Because of this, most aggregate records have been broken. Clark averaged 8.4 assists per game last year in breaking the record. Courtney Vandersloot averaged 9.95 assists per game in 2020. The only total record broken last year that would have been broken even with the old number of games was A’ja Wilson breaking the total points and average points record. She averaged 26.9 points per game, eclipsing Diana Taurasi’s 25.3 points per game.
Despite Clark performing well on paper last year the Indiana Fever, which also boasts all stars Aliyah Boston and Kelsey Mitchell, finished an unimpressive 20-20.Last year Clark’s Win Share was 3.0. For comparison, A’ja Wilson’s win share was 10.9. Even her teammate Kelsey Mitchell’s Win Share was 3.2 which corresponds to my feeling that at this time Clark is the second best guard on the Fever.

[Mark17]

It's interesting to read this discussion. Everyone is talking about this card as though it is a stock on the NYSE. Instead of P/E ratio and future earnings, the factors are relative performance and injury risk.

CC had a terrific collegiate career, so that everyone knew her popularity was sky high before her rookie season. As was stated, Panini issued several 1/1 cards.

Anyway, this card is not a stock certificate related to CC or her future earnings. It is a bit of recently printed cardboard which is selling for the price of a very nice 5-bedroom house in the suburbs of Minneapolis, or 150 one-ounce gold coins. The house or gold would be investments. The bit of cardboard is somebody relying on the "greater fool" theory, with an insanely high bar to hurdle.

I remember selling 100-card lots back in the 1980s. A customer bought a few hundred 1987 Wally Joyner cards and was so excited. "It's just like buying stock in a player," he said. Well, it didn't work that way. Joyner took home some decent paychecks and had an above average 16-year career, but his rookie cards plummeted from their initial price.

This CC card doesn't necessarily go up in value with a good season. It certainly goes down with a significant injury or a bad season. But ultimately, its value doesn't directly correlate to her performance, and it isn't liquid like stocks on the exchange. It's value hinges solely on whether there's a greater fool out there.

[ALBB]

IMO - waste of money

[Brent G.]

Originally Posted by Mark17

It's interesting to read this discussion. Everyone is talking about this card as though it is a stock on the NYSE. Instead of P/E ratio and future earnings, the factors are relative performance and injury risk.

CC had a terrific collegiate career, so that everyone knew her popularity was sky high before her rookie season. As was stated, Panini issued several 1/1 cards.

Anyway, this card is not a stock certificate related to CC or her future earnings. It is a bit of recently printed cardboard which is selling for the price of a very nice 5-bedroom house in the suburbs of Minneapolis, or 150 one-ounce gold coins. The house or gold would be investments. The bit of cardboard is somebody relying on the "greater fool" theory, with an insanely high bar to hurdle.

I remember selling 100-card lots back in the 1980s. A customer bought a few hundred 1987 Wally Joyner cards and was so excited. "It's just like buying stock in a player," he said. Well, it didn't work that way. Joyner took home some decent paychecks and had an above average 16-year career, but his rookie cards plummeted from their initial price.

This CC card doesn't necessarily go up in value with a good season. It certainly goes down with a significant injury or a bad season. But ultimately, its value doesn't directly correlate to her performance, and it isn't liquid like stocks on the exchange. It's value hinges solely on whether there's a greater fool out there.

Sure seems there are many fools in the CC marketplace. This is a great example of why regular people are willing to go broke gambling on breaks — because right now there’s always some asshole with too much money willing to dump a life-changing amount on such items.

[bk400]

I'm frankly most surprised by how the value of that card reflects on the increasingly popularity of the WNBA. It's a progressive step socially, and I'm all for it, even if I am more of an Angel Reese fan personally.

[Snapolit1]

Amazing the ire that's been kicked up over CC. Only a fool would buy this card. It's unanimous.

She is the face of a league, will be a great player for a number of years, and will remain an iconic person for many years after that. To a generation of young girls she is basically Mickey Mantle.

Can't say the same for Jasson Dominguez or Adley Ritschman.

I could give a few thousand examples of stupider purchases in the last few years.

[Brent G.]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Amazing the ire that's been kicked up over CC. Only a fool would buy this card. It's unanimous.

She is the face of a league, will be a great player for a number of years, and will remain an iconic person for many years after that. To a generation of young girls she is basically Mickey Mantle.

Can't say the same for Jasson Dominguez or Adley Ritschman.

I could give a few thousand examples of stupider purchases in the last few years.

I think the only thing unanimous is that only a fool would spend $660,000 on this card — but maybe we’re all wrong. She’s a great player — and in Iowa, she’s just a slight step behind Jesus. There’s a level of worship that’s unparalleled in women’s athletics. She is an idol to millions of girls ... but they don't buy cards in large numbers and never will.

[rjackson44]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Amazing the ire that's been kicked up over CC. Only a fool would buy this card. It's unanimous.

She is the face of a league, will be a great player for a number of years, and will remain an iconic person for many years after that. To a generation of young girls she is basically Mickey Mantle.

Can't say the same for Jasson Dominguez or Adley Ritschman.

I could give a few thousand examples of stupider purchases in the last few years.

agreed 100 pct only a fool

[packs]

I think talking about what Clark has done makes for an easier explanation than talking about what she hasn't. She's made the WNBA relevant. Everyone makes time to talk about it on their show now. The games are national news. Everybody in the country knows who she is.

Every sport needs somebody like her.

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by rjackson44

agreed 100 pct only a fool

If they can sell it for $1,000 more than they paid for it, they're not stupid. Time will tell.

[Fred]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Amazing the ire that's been kicked up over CC. Only a fool would buy this card. It's unanimous.

She is the face of a league, will be a great player for a number of years, and will remain an iconic person for many years after that. To a generation of young girls she is basically Mickey Mantle.

Can't say the same for Jasson Dominguez or Adley Ritschman.

I could give a few thousand examples of stupider purchases in the last few years.

Now that's a good way to look at CC.

Holy crap, $660K. Can you imagine how many vintage sets someone could put together with those $$$. Here's another way to look at this, if it's a 1/1 then it's much more rare than a T206 Wags. Insert vomiting emoji.
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