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Old 08-01-2025, 11:09 AM
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Hi Butch, curious would you have a copy of the 1972 Topps - #15 Walt Williams with red blob next to face? I do not have the card and actually never seen one for sale. I have the attached old pic, not sure where I got it. Not even sure it is real or just a one off card. Thx John
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Hi Butch, curious would you have a copy of the 1972 Topps - #15 Walt Williams with red blob next to face? I do not have the card and actually never seen one for sale. I have the attached old pic, not sure where I got it. Not even sure it is real or just a one off card. Thx John
John,

No sir I do not have that variation. That would be a new one for me as well. I will say that if another one does exist there are a couple of fine gentleman here that may have one and hopefully will respond to your question.

There are a bunch of great variation gatherers here and it is bound to show up in someone's PC.

And now, I shall add that one to my 72 list. ;-)

Cheers and keep hunting!

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Old 08-01-2025, 05:09 PM
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Thanks Butch. Not sure if you classify difficulty level, but this would be rated extremely hard to find. I have looked for this one many years with no luck. Be interesting to see if someone reports they have one. John
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This one might be already well known but I wasn't aware of it. While looking at 1961 Topps 6th Series cards on TradingCardDataBase for another reason I noticed they had this card listed as a variation, 1961 Topps 473 Bobby Shantz with and without a green circle on the back of the card. I think it's a neat recurring print flaw but I wouldn't consider it a bona fide variation.
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This one might be already well known but I wasn't aware of it. While looking at 1961 Topps 6th Series cards on TradingCardDataBase for another reason I noticed they had this card listed as a variation, 1961 Topps 473 Bobby Shantz with and without a green circle on the back of the card. I think it's a neat recurring print flaw but I wouldn't consider it a bona fide variation.
What causes that type of defect? And would you expect others in that series to exhibit similar defects?
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Old 08-05-2025, 06:30 AM
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1961, #519, Pags can be found both with and without a blue swirl by the catcher's mitt. It is easily found.

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1972 topps cubs TC 192……not really a E and V but a cool 3D color shift
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1961, #519, Pags can be found both with and without a blue swirl by the catcher's mitt. It is easily found.

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Checked my set and did not have this one. Just picked the variation up on Ebay. Many available.

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Thanks Butch. Not sure if you classify difficulty level, but this would be rated extremely hard to find. I have looked for this one many years with no luck. Be interesting to see if someone reports they have one. John
Sometimes it is more a pain level than a difficulty level. Case in point: It is painful for me to know I will never own a 1990 Frank Thomas NNOF as well as the 1969 Topps Pittsburgh Rookie card with no black outline. Difficulty and Pain level are both high for me.

So some sets I will never get to a complete Master Set level. But the pain and difficulty with other sets is much less and the chances higher that I will get to a master set level.

Anyways, that is how it works in my crazy way of thinking about it. Mind you, I will continue to collect and have fun doing it.

Nature of the beast in collecting variations…..

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Butch, Do you believe there is really a "complete Master Set level" that someone has? I would question that as there maybe a known complete Master Set level, but new variations can be found unexpectedly. Today you have a master set, but tomorrow, crap I do not have that one. Perfect example the 72 red dot I reported, John
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Butch, Do you believe there is really a "complete Master Set level" that someone has? I would question that as there maybe a known complete Master Set level, but new variations can be found unexpectedly. Today you have a master set, but tomorrow, crap I do not have that one. Perfect example the 72 red dot I reported, John
Of course not!!! But a guy can dream!!

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