How did this get graded by PSA???

[Leon]

Originally Posted by 4815162342

Wow, thanks!

I knew I made a mistake when I let a few people take a picture of it. Live and learn..(Kicking myself......)

The internet is great and it sucks all at the same time. They are as real as the day is long. They are real because when you hold them and analyze them, and you have collected vintage cards for 25+ yrs almost every day, you know they are real. They feel real and they resemble the Shumacher cards almost exactly. Not a stretch by any means. I wouldn't doubt more of these, or other service station ones, show up in the future.

[whiteymet]

Originally Posted by Leon

I knew I made a mistake when I let a few people take a picture of it. Live and learn..(Kicking myself......)

The internet is great and it sucks all at the same time. They are as real as the day is long. They are real because when you hold them and analyze them, and you have collected vintage cards for 25+ yrs almost every day, you know they real. They feel real and they resemble the Shumacher cards almost exactly. Not a stretch by any means. I wouldn't doubt more of these, or other service station ones, show up in the future.

Leon:

You did not let me take a photo of the card. I took the photo before you bought it from RMY.

As I said in my original post I am not saying the card is not legit. My only question is how PSA graded the DiMaggio with no supporting prior knowledge about the set in the hobby.

Curious why you did not have PSA grade the Musial?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by whiteymet

Leon:

You did not let me take a photo of the card. I took the photo before you bought it from RMY.

As I said in my original post I am not saying the card is not legit. My only question is how PSA graded the DiMaggio with no supporting prior knowledge about the set in the hobby.

Thanks Fred. Sorry about that. I thought you might have gotten it from someone that asked me to take a picture of it, as there were several. I was hoping to talk about it after the one in auction now. Yes, it was for sale and I liked it, so I bought it.

Not pertaining to PSA, but if a collector can't hold this (Musial card) in their hand, loop it, black light it, and know it's real....then I dunno. I don't have any great card senses but it feels and looks just like my Schumacher cards. CGC felt it was real also. It will be interesting to see where the Dimaggio goes in auction. John Rumirez (hey John) had his doubts too. But he admitted it might be because he didn't have it LOL. Love you, John LOL....

And a Shumacher card..

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[Leon]

Overall, with exception to Henry Yee over there, I don't care for PSA grading or the way they do business.

I should mention, I couldn't care less if others use PSA> Money > can't blame them. I guess, if I were trying to have the best of a set, I would almost have to do a PSA registry.

Originally Posted by whiteymet

Leon:

You did not let me take a photo of the card. I took the photo before you bought it from RMY.

As I said in my original post I am not saying the card is not legit. My only question is how PSA graded the DiMaggio with no supporting prior knowledge about the set in the hobby.

Curious why you did not have PSA grade the Musial?

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by Leon

Overall, with exception to Henry Yee over there, I don't care for PSA grading or the way they do business.

I should mention, I couldn't care less if others use PSA> Money > can't blame them. I guess, if I were trying to have the best of a set, I would almost have to do a PSA registry.

Yes to all of this!!!!!

I have submitted uncatalogued items to PSA at least 6 or 7 times and regardless of what research I have provided them, they reject it. Always demanding that it be in a catalog. Often, my research has been characterized as crowd sourced...you know...just like the ACC that is the basis for all of our hobby guides. At PSA it is all about who you know and who you are. Never about what you have to submit.

Up until recently, I could go to SGC with the same research and the items would be graded but that changed once Collectors bought them.

[perezfan]

They have no standards.... it's just a money grab. Consider this...

You can buy an entire display box of Topps 1968 Posters for $575. Yes, you get the complete and entire Box for $575....

https://rockhurstauctions.com/LotDet...entoryid=13073

OR.... you can cut away the Mantle portion of the box, which is die-cut at the top and attached at the bottom. It was meant to be flapped up for retail display purposes. It was never meant to be cut away from the box. But if you decide to deface it, you can charge $7,500 for the altered Mantle image inside of a PSA slab. That's 13 times the cost of the full un-altered Box.... What a difference a slab makes...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/145765980141

And lastly, if you deface the Display Box just right (and know the perfect random spot to guide your scissors) you can get a NUMBER Grade from PSA! This altered example was assigned a 3.5 grade for some unknown reason. But this particular Box Defacer only charges $5,500 for his example... that's only 10 times the cost of the full box. What a deal.... makes you want to ask PSA what even qualifies this as a "card"....

https://www.ebay.com/itm/196454276591

[Fred]

Originally Posted by perezfan

They have no standards.... it's just a money grab. Consider this...

You can buy an entire display box of Topps 1968 Posters for $575. Yes, you get the complete and entire Box for $575....

https://rockhurstauctions.com/LotDet...entoryid=13073

OR.... you can cut away the Mantle portion of the box, which is die-cut at the top and attached at the bottom. It was meant to be flapped up for retail display purposes. It was never meant to be cut away from the box. But if you decide to deface it, you can charge $7,500 for the altered Mantle image inside of a PSA slab. That's 13 times the cost of the full un-altered Box.... What a difference a slab makes...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/145765980141

And lastly, if you deface the Display Box just right (and know the perfect random spot to guide your scissors) you can get a NUMBER Grade from PSA! This altered example was assigned a 3.5 grade for some unknown reason. But this particular Box Defacer only charges $5,500 for his example... that's only 10 times the cost of the full box. What a deal.... makes you want to ask PSA what even qualifies this as a "card"....

https://www.ebay.com/itm/196454276591

Wow! Completely mind boggling.

[4815162342]

Originally Posted by Leon

I knew I made a mistake when I let a few people take a picture of it. Live and learn..(Kicking myself......)

The internet is great and it sucks all at the same time. They are as real as the day is long. They are real because when you hold them and analyze them, and you have collected vintage cards for 25+ yrs almost every day, you know they real. They feel real and they resemble the Shumacher cards almost exactly. Not a stretch by any means. I wouldn't doubt more of these, or other service station ones, show up in the future.

Congrats, Leon. Very cool card.