1965 Topps Series 6 semi-high Sheet Reconstruction

[Kevvyg1026]

This is definitely a very frustrating series to attempt a reconstruction for the reasons that Cliff has already pointed out. Obviously, the individual card placements require a lot of miscuts, and there is really a dearth of those. But even the row patterns for the two slits are difficult to fathom.

For example, we know the 7 header (left edge) cards. These are: Owens, Horlen, Howard, Mathews, Priddy, Miller, and Wills. The miscuts found so far suggest:
a. Horlen is above Owens
b. Horlen is above Miller
c. Howard is above Horlen
d. Priddy is above Owens
e. Owens is above Mathews
f. Mathews is above Wills
g. A red card is above Owens (Note: I suspect that this might simply be a color shift of Priddy).

So there are at least two row changes in the slit patterns.

We are certain that two of the three cards printed 4x cards across the two slits are Horlen & Owens, but the third one is TBD. Could it be Priddy? Howard?

We also know that the four of the 7 trail end (last column) cards are: Dodgers RS (4x), Braves RS (Niekro), Javier, and checklist 7 (small print), and strongly suspect that the other 3 are: Law, Giants RS, Mets RS.

Normally, the checklists are somewhat easy to place because they usually have some unusual features, but in this series, we have not been able to determine adjacent cards to the checklists and therefore, we can't even assign the trail cards to their appropriate header cards.

I hate to give up (yes, I probably am), but unless additional miscuts turn up, or some uncut or wrong back material appears, the printing pattern for this series may be lost to posterity.

[deweyinthehall]

This is maddening - one more millimeter would do it.

But, no way to tell which Pirate or Yankee is in the same column as Aguirre...

[Kevvyg1026]

It would be nice (helpful?, lucky?) if it was Mota because then the red card to the right of Howard would be Aguirre. But, I had recorded that the Indians RS was left of Aguirre (can't find that definitive miscut, unfortunately), so, if true, then the card below Aguirre can't be be Mota.

Freese may have a black border card above him at one point, but there is a row change above the Freese-Banks row, so Freese can't be ruled out.

And unfortunately, we know little about the cards surrounding Wood, Law, or Cardwell.

So, this series continues to tanatalize, flummox, confound, and p*** me off.

[Cliff Bowman]

It’s not Law, his baseball is very close to the bio box as can be seen at the top of this page. It can’t be Elston Howard either, so that leaves Clete Boyer, Cardwell, Freese, Mota, and Wood.

[deweyinthehall]

Found this Berra on eBay today - settles the question of whether he's a right edge card or not - looks like an Indian or Phillie to his right.

I ran through all Indians and Phillies, and the only ones that can't be ruled out because of the 3x/4x thing (Berra being a 3x) or already being to the right of another card are Culp, Brown, Indians Team and Phillies Rookie.

Because of the slight tilt, I think the likeliest candidates are Culp and the Phillies Rookies - I think the team name on the Indians card and the headdress on Browns would show slightly.

Thoughts?

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by deweyinthehall

Found this Berra on eBay today - settles the question of whether he's a right edge card or not - looks like an Indian or Phillie to his right.

I ran through all Indians and Phillies, and the only ones that can't be ruled out because of the 3x/4x thing (Berra being a 3x) or already being to the right of another card are Culp, Brown, Indians Team and Phillies Rookie.

Because of the slight tilt, I think the likeliest candidates are Culp and the Phillies Rookies - I think the team name on the Indians card and the headdress on Browns would show slightly.

Thoughts?

Nice find, it can’t be Culp, he has an Indian/Red to his left from a miscut in post #36. ETA I think Richie Allen is still possible.

[deweyinthehall]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

Nice find, it can’t be Culp, he has an Indian/Red to his left from a miscut in post #36. ETA I think Richie Allen is still possible.

Right you are about Culp.

I don't think it can be Allen - somebody check my math, but post 24 has Gagliano over Allen, and in some posts in the high 60s, it seems Gagliano is place next to Owens in the left edge. If this is accurate, then placing Allen next to Berra would be impossible as it would make Berra a LE card which we know he can't be.

With Culp eliminated, I think the best bet is the Phillies Rookies, but I'm not certain enough to lock it in on my grid.