Juan Soto -- looking like a bust for the Mets

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by bk400

I had my doubts about that signing, and the eye test is beginning to confirm those doubts. It's not just the fact that he's had a slow start to the season. Having watched him play now many times in a Mets uniform, I think he's a loafer on the field and on the base paths. I'm not sure if it is because he is just slow or if he is lazy. Or if he just doesn't care as much now that he will be billionaire if he manages his money properly.

Good take by the Yankees.

Originally Posted by packs

I didn’t realize Soto was closing in on a 30-30 season. Sneaky.

Not bad for a slow, lazy loafer, and disinterested potential billionaire.

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

Not bad for a slow, lazy loafer, and disinterested potential billionaire.

Not attacking you personally, but you realize that essentially every player in the last 50 years who has been called a lazy loafer who doesn't care is either Hispanic or black? Started some after integration and continues to this day. Weird coincidence? Even Roberto Clemente was a lazy loafer. Look it up.

[Balticfox]

Mark McGwire (the daily starter with a grand total of 12 stolen bases over 16 years) was a lazy loafer. That's why he took steroids and did nothing but swing for the fences. He knew that a HR or a strikeout meant that he wouldn't have to run the bases.

[Snapolit1]

Baseball fans are great …..

Lindor has been criticized for years for smiling too much.

This year Soto has been criticized for not smiling enough.

I wish someone could explain to these guys exactly how often they should be smiling.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Juan Soto has a 42 career WAR already. Juan Soto is .... wait for it.... 26. Anything can happen to anyone, of course, it's baseball, but this is a generational player we are talking about at this juncture.

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Juan Soto has a 42 career WAR already. Juan Soto is .... wait for it.... 26. Anything can happen to anyone, of course, it's baseball, but this is a generational player we are talking about at this juncture.

I'll repeat what I said earlier in this thread. The Mets will have plenty of teams willing to take him off their hands if they want to get rid of him.

[bk400]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Not attacking you personally, but you realize that essentially every player in the last 50 years who has been called a lazy loafer who doesn't care is either Hispanic or black? Started some after integration and continues to this day. Weird coincidence? Even Roberto Clemente was a lazy loafer. Look it up.

I think that we should be able to have virtual barstool debates about players' effort, or lack thereof, without insinuations that someone may be racist.

Look at Juan Soto's tape from May and June, after he signed a guaranteed $765 million contract. I don't think it's unfair to say that he looked either very slow or lazy. If PCA played like that, fans would also call him either very slow or lazy.

[Balticfox]

Originally Posted by bk400

I think that we should be able to have virtual barstool debates about players' effort, or lack thereof, without insinuations that someone may be racist.

I agree. The last thing we need on this forum is race baiting remarks.

[Peter_Spaeth]

False alarm. Nobody is race baiting.

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Not attacking you personally, but you realize that essentially every player in the last 50 years who has been called a lazy loafer who doesn't care is either Hispanic or black? Started some after integration and continues to this day. Weird coincidence? Even Roberto Clemente was a lazy loafer. Look it up.

I was being sarcastic. 1st quote bubble above my response for the context.

[GrayGhost]

Little early for HOF for Soto