Clayton Kershaw retiring at end of season

[Eric72]

3 Cy Young Awards, an MVP Award, 80+ WAR, 3,000 strikeouts, career WHIP of about 1.02, career ERA of about 2.54, 11 time All-Star, and a World Series ring.

Obviously, he had some postseason struggles. Still, Kershaw was a great pitcher for quite a long time. We won't see many like him again.

[rlevy]

Originally Posted by Eric72

3 Cy Young Awards, an MVP Award, 80+ WAR, 3,000 strikeouts, career WHIP of about 1.02, career ERA of about 2.54, 11 time All-Star, and a World Series ring.

Obviously, he had some postseason struggles. Still, Kershaw was a great pitcher for quite a long time. We won't see many like him again.

A little correction as he has 2 WS rings. Yes he had some postseason issues, but you have to discount the 2017 WS with the Astro cheaters (especially game 5, when he gave up 3 run leads twice because they knew when he was throwing an off speed pitch). And he had redemption in the 2020 WS when he pitched well.

Rick

[bk400]

Originally Posted by rlevy

A little correction as he has 2 WS rings. Yes he had some postseason issues, but you have to discount the 2017 WS with the Astro cheaters (especially game 5, when he gave up 3 run leads twice because they knew when he was throwing an off speed pitch). And he had redemption in the 2020 WS when he pitched well.

Rick

Remember Mike Scott and the sandpaper in 1986? Astros...

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by rlevy

A little correction as he has 2 WS rings. Yes he had some postseason issues, but you have to discount the 2017 WS with the Astro cheaters (especially game 5, when he gave up 3 run leads twice because they knew when he was throwing an off speed pitch). And he had redemption in the 2020 WS when he pitched well.

Rick

Interestingly, Baseball Reference and a few other sites do not give Kershaw credit for the '24 championship. I believe this is due to him not being on the roster.

Still, you're right. Kershaw did get a ring.

[rats60]

Originally Posted by Eric72

3 Cy Young Awards, an MVP Award, 80+ WAR, 3,000 strikeouts, career WHIP of about 1.02, career ERA of about 2.54, 11 time All-Star, and a World Series ring.

Obviously, he had some postseason struggles. Still, Kershaw was a great pitcher for quite a long time. We won't see many like him again.

Paul Skenes

[Chris-Counts]

I'm curious where he lands on the list of all-time pitchers? He's the best of his generation. I just read an article by some knucklehead stats expert who claims he's in the Top 20, but he had Phil Niekro, Bob Gibson and Gaylord Perry ahead of him. I'd say Kershaw is in the Top 10, with only Gibson of the three even considered for the Top 20.

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by Chris-Counts

I'm curious where he lands on the list of all-time pitchers? He's the best of his generation. I just read an article by some knucklehead stats expert who claims he's in the Top 20, but he had Phil Niekro, Bob Gibson and Gaylord Perry ahead of him. I'd say Kershaw is in the Top 10, with only Gibson of the three even considered for the Top 20.

Amazing how similar he and Koufax are in stats.

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by rats60

Paul Skenes

The potential is there. I get it.

He has a long way to go, though, before he has 3,000+ Ks, 80+ WAR, 11 All-Star selections, etc.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by rats60

Paul Skenes

Maybe, or maybe he's the next Tim Lincecum, Dwight Gooden, Mark Fidrych, Andy Messersmith (does anyone remember how good he was?) etc. Time will tell.