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Old 10-14-2025, 05:54 PM
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Come on guys, let's address the opinion elephant in the room :

That card is cheaper to buy graded than to get graded, unless you've got a registry hard-on.
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Old 10-14-2025, 06:00 PM
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Come on guys, let's address the opinion elephant in the room :

That card is cheaper to buy graded than to get graded, unless you've got a registry hard-on.
Everyone collects differently man, don't yuk on his yum!
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Old 10-14-2025, 06:16 PM
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Come on guys, let's address the opinion elephant in the room :

That card is cheaper to buy graded than to get graded, unless you've got a registry hard-on.
It was sent to SGC so doesn't seem to be for the registry.
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Old 10-14-2025, 07:25 PM
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I'm just saying he was hoping to buy a lottery ticket, not a card.

Nothing wrong with that, I hope he finds a $3 card that he later sells for a zillion dollars, but don't come on here to bad mouth a seller based on a single common and cheap card that he obviously thought it was a quality card himself after receiving it, or he wouldn't have sent it in for an opinion.

If he's going to call out a seller in a thread, maybe he should have titled the thread "Greg Morris & Butchie T Overgrading"

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Old 10-14-2025, 07:37 PM
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Come on guys, let's address the opinion elephant in the room:

That card is cheaper to buy graded than to get graded, unless you've got a registry hard-on.
I too am bewildered.

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Old 10-14-2025, 07:46 PM
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Not hard to believe.
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Old 10-14-2025, 08:46 PM
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Always consider the source:

Graders today have no context with which to grade fairly. For example, my client’s brother in law is a PSA grader. He is 29 years old, has worked at PSA for six years, and makes $65k per year! He is not a collector, and to him, it’s just a job! His entire experience with sports cards spans a total of just six years! LoL.

Ladies and gents; these are the backgrounds of some of the graders grading your cards!
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Old 10-14-2025, 09:08 PM
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Always consider the source:

Graders today have no context with which to grade fairly. For example, my client’s brother in law is a PSA grader. He is 29 years old, has worked at PSA for six years, and makes $65k per year! He is not a collector, and to him, it’s just a job! His entire experience with sports cards spans a total of just six years! LoL.

Ladies and gents; these are the backgrounds of some of the graders grading your cards!
I personally love those inexperienced graders at PSA. Maybe I am just lucky but I have had WAY more cards highly over graded than under graded by them. I highly doubt i am the only one who has got over graded cards back but people posting about that are few and far between. Way more fun to complain.
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Old 10-14-2025, 09:16 PM
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Always consider the source:

Graders today have no context with which to grade fairly. For example, my client’s brother in law is a PSA grader. He is 29 years old, has worked at PSA for six years, and makes $65k per year! He is not a collector, and to him, it’s just a job! His entire experience with sports cards spans a total of just six years! LoL.

Ladies and gents; these are the backgrounds of some of the graders grading your cards!
Luckily SGC would never employ such naïfs!
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Always consider the source:

Graders today have no context with which to grade fairly. For example, my client’s brother in law is a PSA grader. He is 29 years old, has worked at PSA for six years, and makes $65k per year! He is not a collector, and to him, it’s just a job! His entire experience with sports cards spans a total of just six years! LoL.

Ladies and gents; these are the backgrounds of some of the graders grading your cards!
And he's probably at this point one of the better, most experienced ones. This is one of the astonishing aspects of PSA's success and market domination, that in almost every instance we have NO idea who is grading the cards or their qualifications. It doesn't even matter. All that matters is the flip.
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And he's probably at this point one of the better, most experienced ones. This is one of the astonishing aspects of PSA's success and market domination, that in almost every instance we have NO idea who is grading the cards or their qualifications. It doesn't even matter. All that matters is the flip.
You beat me to it... He is probably considered one of PSA's "seasoned pros".
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And he's probably at this point one of the better, most experienced ones. This is one of the astonishing aspects of PSA's success and market domination, that in almost every instance we have NO idea who is grading the cards or their qualifications. It doesn't even matter. All that matters is the flip.
Truth! Yet people continue sending their cards and money to PSA.

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It's the same on the autograph end of things. There are now so many "authenticators" working for the companies. Insofar as vintage autographed baseball material is concerned, I can count on one hand the number of people who have TPA industry experience with whom I can have a learned conversation on the subject. I certainly don't claim to know each and every person in the industry these days, but nobody has ever approached me with "This guy really knows the material!" regarding anyone I haven't met. Never once in almost 20 years. If the field is indeed rife with experts, occasional praise such as this should be par for the course.

How often is it that the knowledge of the submitter exceeds that of the person examining an item? I'd surmise this happens far more frequently than it should.

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Truth! Yet people continue sending their cards and money to PSA.

Heck yes! And just be glad you don't get to pay even more.
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Truth! Yet people continue sending their cards and money to PSA.

That's really Baaaaaaaad
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Agreed. If some of you guys would kindly stop sending your grading submissions in to PSA, maybe we can all get our orders back in under three months. Now wouldn’t that be nice……

BTW wish I was making ONLY $65K when I was 29 years old. More like $32K if I was lucky.

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I have purchased 1K+ cards from GMC over the years and find them to be way more accurately “graded” per TPG standards than the actual company grades. Sure they might miss a few minor problems but resolving a problem with them is much easier the paying another grading fee to PSA to have the problem ignored.
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Graders today have no context with which to grade fairly. For example, my client’s brother in law is a PSA grader. He is 29 years old, has worked at PSA for six years, and makes $65k per year! He is not a collector, and to him, it’s just a job! His entire experience with sports cards spans a total of just six years! LoL.



Ladies and gents; these are the backgrounds of some of the graders grading your cards!
That grader sounds qualified to me. If he's been looking at 1000 cards a day for 6 years, he ought to be pretty good at it by now.

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