Ohtani or Ruth?

[gregndodgers]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

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I chose Ruth due to his sheer impact on the game, but…

Only 12 hitters have ever recorded 3 home runs in a postseason game.

Only 26 pitchers have ever recorded 10+ strikeouts with 2 or less hits and no runs in a postseason start.

Ohtani did both in one game.

And add that only seven players have hit a baseball out of Dodgers stadium (in 63 years!), and Ohtani did that yesterday!

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by gregndodgers

And add that only seven players have hit a baseball out of Dodgers stadium (in 63 years!), and Ohtani did that yesterday!

Watching the Dodger dugout as they were tracking that ball was hilarious.

[Fred]

King Kong or Godzilla?

Always interesting to see the comments.

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[Beercan collector]

Originally Posted by Fred

King Kong or Godzilla?

Always interesting to see the comments.

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Godzilla had more adventures, King Kong was just remaking the same movie over and over

[Yoda]

Originally Posted by Beercan collector

Godzilla had more adventures, King Kong was just remaking the same movie over and over

I liked it when they teamed up.

[Yoda]

Ohtani is a babyfaced assassin. When I lived and worked in Japan in the 1970's, they didn't make them like him.

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by Yoda

Ohtani is a babyfaced assassin. When I lived and worked in Japan in the 1970's, they didn't make them like him.

Yeah they did, but they were Yakuza.

[samosa4u]

People always getting carried away with modern players. For example, when Messi won the World Cup, then everybody started calling him the GOAT (what about Pele? He won it three times!) Comparing Ohtani to Ruth is just insane. Please stop. If you just wanna' study the numbers, then Mike Trout is still ahead of Ohtani. What Trout did in his twenties was insane. But If Ohtani keeps playing like this throughout his thirties, then yes, he will eventually overtake him.

[raulus]

Originally Posted by samosa4u

People always getting carried away with modern players. For example, when Messi won the World Cup, then everybody started calling him the GOAT (what about Pele? He won it three times!) Comparing Ohtani to Ruth is just insane. Please stop. If you just wanna' study the numbers, then Mike Trout is still ahead of Ohtani. What Trout did in his twenties was insane. But If Ohtani keeps playing like this throughout his thirties, then yes, he will eventually overtake him.

Recency bias. Every kid who comes up and gets 8 hits on their first weekend, people immediately want to start talking about whether or not he’s the GOAT.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by raulus

Recency bias. Every kid who comes up and gets 8 hits on their first weekend, people immediately want to start talking about whether or not he’s the GOAT.

Yeah but nostalgia bias is just as significant and prevalent, at least on this Board which collectively would not name one player with a RC in the last 50 years to the all time team even though that's a third of baseball history.

[Tomi]

I would love to see players of today deal with the issues of the players of yesterday. Imagine if they had to work jobs in the off season. Buses and trains to games instead of planes. Players having to look for hotel accommodations on the black part of town and not being able to room with their white teammates. Oh, death threats too. 1 or 2 trainers to a team.
This is why i look at yesterday's greats the way I do. They were tough as nails where today a hangnail sidelines someone. Mantles' teammates wouldn't dare take an off day for a small injury after seeing what he went through just getting ready for a game.

[gregndodgers]

Originally Posted by samosa4u

Comparing Ohtani to Ruth is just insane. Please stop. If you just wanna' study the numbers, then Mike Trout is still ahead of Ohtani. What Trout did in his twenties was insane.

Trout’s fastest throw from the outfield is 98.6pm. If he had done that on the mound, then Trout would be the superior player in my mind. But he did not.

[gregndodgers]

“ [I]t is estimated that [Ruth’s] fastball was likely between 80 and 85 mph. While he was a great pitcher, his career strikeout rate was lower than other "fireballers" of his era, suggesting he was not an extreme velocity pitcher compared to peers like Walter Johnson, who was rumored to throw even faster.”

[Tomi]

Originally Posted by gregndodgers

Trout’s fastest throw from the outfield is 98.6pm. If he had done that on the mound, then Trout would be the superior player in my mind. But he did not.

Ichirio had a high 90's fastball. Chose to play the field and ended up with 3,000 hits while starting as a 27 year old rookie. Smart choice.

[Balticfox]

Originally Posted by Tomi

Ichirio had a high 90's fastball.

What's his knuckleball like?