Ohtani or Ruth?

[theshowandme]

OP is asking who is better.

All of you are talking about Most Accomplished.

I take “better” as more talented.

No one has been more talented than Shohei Ohtani in the sport of baseball.

Throws 100 mph, insane breaking stuff, and hits 50 bombs a year against pitchers also throwing 100 mph at him, often times seeing 3-4 pitchers a game

Ruth will always be King for Most Accomplished

But it’s okay to think guys 100+ years later are more talented.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by theshowandme

OP is asking who is better.

All of you are talking about Most Accomplished.

I take “better” as more talented.

No one has been more talented than Shohei Ohtani in the sport of baseball.

Throws 100 mph, insane breaking stuff, and hits 50 bombs a year against pitchers also throwing 100 mph at him, often times seeing 3-4 pitchers a game

Ruth will always be King for Most Accomplished

But it’s okay to think guys 100+ years later are more talented.

This is how I see it. When discussing "who is better" are we going by career accomplishments? Or who is more talented?

Ohtani is more talented. Ruth certainly accomplished more. I don't think either of these are really debatable.

[rats60]

Originally Posted by calvindog

This is how I see it. When discussing "who is better" are we going by career accomplishments? Or who is more talented?

Ohtani is more talented. Ruth certainly accomplished more. I don't think either of these are really debatable.

I strongly disagree.

[Snapolit1]

Lots of people who were born 50 years after Ruth died are experts in his raw talent level. Interesting.

His accomplishments are on paper. How his level of talent matches up to the best players today? It doesn't. Would be as silly as arguing that the best mile runner in 1934 or best field goal kicker in 1950 anyway be competitive today. They wouldn't.

Could Ruth have thrived today with all the advance in training, medicine, etc? Who tf knows. His bout with venereal disease wouldn't have helped.

[SyrNy1960]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Lots of people who were born 50 years after Ruth died are experts in his raw talent level. Interesting.

His accomplishments are on paper. How his level of talent matches up to the best players today? It doesn't. Would be as silly as arguing that the best mile runner in 1934 or best field goal kicker in 1950 anyway be competitive today. They wouldn't.

Could Ruth have thrived today with all the advance in training, medicine, etc? Who tf knows. His bout with venereal disease wouldn't have helped.

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[Beercan collector]

Baseball had been played pretty hard for 50 years before Ruth showed up,
Just about Every type of organization had a team (Schools, towns, churches,business,etc many leagues with paid players) Not saying skills were up to today’s level but Players who made it to the major leagues were a lot better than your average janitor/plumber. As someone noted earlier though there’s a difference between best and greatest, but I still voted Ruth I guess because he did it for longer.