Ohtani or Ruth?

[doug.goodman]

Every one deserves to be paid as much as they can get themselves paid.

To me a salary cap is the same as telling the company I work for that I will not allow them to pay me any more money, even if they want to.

[Balticfox]

Originally Posted by BioCRN

In a world where an owner buys the TB Rays for 1.7 billion dollars for a team that doesn't even have a stadium to play in right now...the players can take all the money they can squeeze from the owners.

Anything less would be stupid. It would make you a stupid worker. It would mean you have no idea what your value is. It would make you a sucker.

It is the most anti-capitalist thing in the world to not achieve your value. I can't even imagine defending devaluing yourself to do the work the person is hiring you not only won't do, but can't do.

Get real. Know your value.

Never did I say that I would expect the players not to try to get whatever they can get. I merely said that I reserve the right to sneer at their high pay. And I can and will just say "No!" if I think they're silly overpaid.

So the players can bargain for whatever they can get, the owners should be allowed to pay as little as they need to run their businesses (the last time they collectively exercised this right though it was called collusion and undercut what should have been their right) and finally I still have a right not to cheer for whatever the final denouement. Like I say, I reserve the right to say "That's silly! I won't support this nonsense with my dollar votes." For whatever reason some of you think that I should cheer gargantuan player salaries because these salaries are being paid by billionaires. That detail though is to me irrelevant. I compare players' salaries to what the average white collar/blue collar working stiff earns and then decide accordingly..

Originally Posted by doug.goodman

Every one deserves to be paid as much as they can get themselves paid.

True.

Originally Posted by doug.goodman

To me a salary cap is the same as telling the company I work for that I will not allow them to pay me any more money, even if they want to.

If the owners choose to agree among themselves not to pay above a certain amount, that's their right. No one should hold a gun to their heads and say you can't come to this agreement. If the players don't like this agreement, nobody is forcing them to stay within MLB. They can play elsewhere or do something else entirely. It's still their choice.

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by Balticfox

If the owners choose to agree among themselves not to pay above a certain amount, that's their right. No one should hold a gun to their heads and say you can't come to this agreement. If the players don't like this agreement, nobody is forcing them to stay within MLB. They can play elsewhere or do something else entirely. It's still their choice.

Yes, agreed.

When the owners agree to do that, the players will quite likely withhold their services, and the owners can then hire other players to participate in their scheduled games.

I recently turned down a job that I didn't feel would pay me enough money for my services, I took a different job for less money that I felt did pay me enough for my services. The first job found somebody for less than what I turned down. Everybody won.

[bk400]

How would you guys like it if all the employers in your industry got together and agreed to cap all the workers' salary at a below market clearing level?

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by bk400

How would you guys like it if all the employers in your industry got together and agreed to cap all the workers' salary at a below market clearing level?

Do you really want Net54's opinion on this? Haha

[Tabe]

Originally Posted by Balticfox

If the owners choose to agree among themselves not to pay above a certain amount, that's their right. No one should hold a gun to their heads and say you can't come to this agreement.

It's literally not their right. They did that in 1985, it was rightly deemed illegal, and they had to pay restitution to the players.