World Series Game 7

[Blunder19]

This game is crazy!!!

[BobbyStrawberry]

Incredible game.

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by doug.goodman

Hoping we go 19...

At least we get an extra hour of sleep tonight if it does.

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by jayshum

Trying to prevent a bloop hit from winning the game makes some sense.

Ok, maybe. But seems like a catchable ball shouldn't win it either...

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by jayshum

At least we get an extra hour of sleep tonight if it does.

Not me, I'll be setting cars on fire in downtown LA, if the Dodgers win

[Gorditadogg]

Originally Posted by jayshum

Just what they're used to doing

That's not a very good reason.

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[jayshum]

Originally Posted by Gorditadogg

That's not a very good reason.

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Betts did the same thing.

[bk400]

Win or lose, how much of a hoss is Yamamoto? Man.

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by doug.goodman

Ok, maybe. But seems like a catchable ball shouldn't win it either...

True, but you have to pick where you're going to play. Clement not a big power hitter so analytics probably favored being shallower.

[BioCRN]

Yamamoto...wow. He's gotta be a heavy contender for WS MVP.

[bk400]

Yamamoto is the best pitcher in baseball this year.

[doug.goodman]

Smith MVP

[tycobb]

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[LEHR]

While I’m disappointed the Jays/Mattingly didn’t win it that was a fantastic series!


Only 101 days until pitchers and catchers report.

[ccre]

[fantastic series. But UGH. That's sucked at the end. QUOTE=LEHR;2547640]While I’m disappointed the Jays/Mattingly didn’t win it that was a fantastic series!


Only 101 days until pitchers and catchers report.[/QUOTE]

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by doug.goodman

Not me, I'll be setting cars on fire in downtown LA, if the Dodgers win

Congrats Doug! Flip a car over and set it on fire for me.

[mainemule]

Roberts completely locks in Hall of Fame selection with the win. As a 5 time WS manager I believed he was a shoe in win or lose.

[raulus]

Couldn’t have happened to a better evil empire.

Just goes to show that if you spend enough, you really can win championships. Although the Mets probably wonder why their ship hasn’t come in yet.

[sfmays24]

Too bad Toronto never heard of a squeeze play that would have resulted in a different outcome on several occasions.

[bk400]

Originally Posted by raulus

Couldn’t have happened to a better evil empire.

Just goes to show that if you spend enough, you really can win championships. Although the Mets probably wonder why their ship hasn’t come in yet.

Exactly. You can only buy a championship if you spend on the right players, which means that money alone doesn't buy championships. Money may be a necessary condition, but it isn't sufficient.

I've gotten a lot of crap for saying it, but the Mets bought the wrong guy. Would Juan Soto defer like 95 percent of the value of his contract so the Mets could sign Yamamoto? The luxury box guy? I don't think so.

[SyrNy1960]

Originally Posted by bk400

i've gotten a lot of crap for saying it, but the mets bought the wrong guy. Would juan soto defer like 95 percent of the value of his contract so the mets could sign yamamoto? The luxury box guy? I don't think so.

👍🏻🏆

[refz]

Wow congrats LA. I was rooting for Toronto. I’m a Yankee fan, AL east fan, and Mattingly was my guy. Truly was one of the more exciting series to watch.

[SyrNy1960]

Originally Posted by refz

Wow congrats LA. I was rooting for Toronto. I’m a Yankee fan, AL east fan, and Mattingly was my guy. Truly was one of the more exciting series to watch.

Mattingly is my guy too! I wish the Yankees could dump Boone and Mattingly take over as manager ⚾️

[ullmandds]

BEST WS I think I've ever seen!!!!!!!!!

[pawpawdiv9]

Awesome to go 11 innings too!
Makes me wonder what those HR balls will fetch $$$.
I ask b/c i saw SCP auctioning the #2 HR ball that Ohtani did on his 3HR game.
Who got the MVP????

[tycobb]

Originally Posted by pawpawdiv9

Awesome to go 11 innings too!
Makes me wonder what those HR balls will fetch $$$.
I ask b/c i saw SCP auctioning the #2 HR ball that Ohtani did on his 3HR game.
Who got the MVP????

Yamamoto MVP !!!


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[Beercan collector]

Shows how much better baseball is without the damn ghost runner

[Gorditadogg]

Originally Posted by jayshum

Betts did the same thing.

Yep, I saw that lol. But his slide didn't cost his team the game.



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[BillyCoxDodgers3B]

I'm Canadian, but have never been a Jays fan.

The only time I liked the Yankees was when they stunk in the 80's and had a really classy superstar named Mattingly. He was also a good role model for my generation. It would have been great to see this man win one, even if only as a coach. It's long overdue.

I have always liked the Dodgers, but they've won their fair share.

Even though I've never cared for the Jays, Canada could have used the win. It would have been so much more than just a baseball game, symbolically. Oh well. Kicked around some more, lol. Still thankful for some things about America in spite of what both countries are having to endure these days: beautiful scenery and lifelong friendships.

[RayW]

I thought this was pretty funny! Different Will Smiths, but maybe every team needs to add a player named Will Smith.

[JJ McGraw]

Game 7 was pure , exciting baseball as it was meant to be viewed. Who cares about all the money spent and the shoulda woulda coulda………that game was never a dull moment , glued to your tv set , can’t miss an inning baseball. What a Game!( And this is coming from a Giants fan)

[Balticfox]

All the Blue Jays had to do was cash in the leadoff double in the bottom of the eleventh by Vladimir Guerrero Jr. and the game would have gone to twelve innings which would have tied the record for the longest game seven in World Series history. But they couldn't get it done....

[rats60]

Originally Posted by Balticfox

All the Blue Jays had to do was cash in the leadoff double in the bottom of the eleventh by Vladimir Guerrero Jr. and the game would have gone to twelve innings which would have tied the record for the longest game seven in World Series history. But they couldn't get it done....

All the Blue Jays needed was Isiah Kiner-Falefa to run hard through the base instead of slide into home and the Blue Jays win in 9.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by rats60

All the Blue Jays needed was Isiah Kiner-Falefa to run hard through the base instead of slide into home and the Blue Jays win in 9.

Did you see how small his lead was off third base was when the ball was hit? A few feet more and he easily scores.

[Balticfox]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Did you see how small his lead was off third base was when the ball was hit? A few feet more and he easily scores.

Wasn't he put in strictly to pinch run? In which case he failed miserably to do his job.

But a bottom of the ninth victory wouldn't have been nearly as historic anyway as one that went into three or more extra innings.

[samosa4u]

Series was mentally exhausting. I'm glad it's over.
Jays surprised everybody this year. Who thought they were going to set all these postseason records and play in the World Series ??
And this team has depth. Even if their best players are down, then no problem! They can play well without Bichette and Springer !!
Vladdy is one hell of a leader and made some insane plays this postseason.
Jays will be back.

[puckpaul]

Originally Posted by raulus

Couldn’t have happened to a better evil empire.

Just goes to show that if you spend enough, you really can win championships. Although the Mets probably wonder why their ship hasn’t come in yet.

It’s obvious why the Mets ship hasn’t come in….they cant sign the best Japanese players because LA is preferable and close to home. Secondly, it’s a work in progress to rebuild an entire organization from the disaster of the wilponzis. They need better pitching. It will come. The farm system is way better already. That is where money can make a difference, and cohen is doing it right.

But several orgs have it right, so winning wont be so easy. Dodgers have that japan advantage. Mets had the same offer to Yamamoto….would have been different season if they had gotten him.

[nat]

Originally Posted by rats60

All the Blue Jays needed was Isiah Kiner-Falefa to run hard through the base instead of slide into home and the Blue Jays win in 9.

I was very confused by this. Why did he slide? It was a force play, there wasn't going to be a tag. Just a mental hiccup? Force plays at home are so rare that players automatically go into "avoid the tag" mode when headed home?

Kirk swinging away was also confusing. They'd already bunted Vlad over, so they already decided to play for a tie. Unless Barger walking changed their calculations significantly (and I don't think it should have - he wasn't going to score from first on a hit), given that they had already bunted Vlad over the play with Kirk should have been a suicide squeeze.

[Knightlax5]

Originally Posted by bk400

Exactly. You can only buy a championship if you spend on the right players, which means that money alone doesn't buy championships. Money may be a necessary condition, but it isn't sufficient.

I've gotten a lot of crap for saying it, but the Mets bought the wrong guy. Would Juan Soto defer like 95 percent of the value of his contract so the Mets could sign Yamamoto? The luxury box guy? I don't think so.

While money plays a part in it, its also who you get to play with. Yamamoto got offered the exact same contract from the Mets. After he got it he took it back to the dodgers and said match and I'll come. Saski could have made more money on other teams with more international money, he just decided to come to the dodgers.

The dodgers have about 1-2 more years before things go south with guys getting old (Freeman, Betts, and Teoscar, Snell will all be 35+) and they feel the effects of the Cohan tax on their farm system. Unfortunately though because of their success, there will likely be a lock out for 2027 with 29/30 owners wanting a hard salary cap.

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by Knightlax5

While money plays a part in it, its also who you get to play with. Yamamoto got offered the exact same contract from the Mets. After he got it he took it back to the dodgers and said match and I'll come. Saski could have made more money on other teams with more international money, he just decided to come to the dodgers.

The dodgers have about 1-2 more years before things go south with guys getting old (Freeman, Betts, and Teoscar, Snell will all be 35+) and they feel the effects of the Cohan tax on their farm system. Unfortunately though because of their success, there will likely be a lock out for 2027 with 29/30 owners wanting a hard salary cap.

Nothing more ludicrous than a bunch of billionaires complaining that the system isn't fair to them. You want to win? Spend some of Daddy's money. Otherwise, sell the team to someone who is willing to spend.

[puckpaul]

+1

[Knightlax5]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

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Nothing more ludicrous than a bunch of billionaires complaining that the system isn't fair to them. You want to win? Spend some of Daddy's money. Otherwise, sell the team to someone who is willing to spend.

That would be valid if all owners want to win. Not all owners want to win, they want to make a profit. The easiest way for them to be prov]fitable is with revenue sharing and keeping costs down. I wish fans had a way to fire owners like a manager or GM.

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by Knightlax5

That would be valid if all owners want to win. Not all owners want to win, they want to make a profit. The easiest way for them to be prov]fitable is with revenue sharing and keeping costs down. I wish fans had a way to fire owners like a manager or GM.

Well, sure, changing the rules to get more $$$ is what billionaires do, both in and out of sports.

Relegation would be another way to handle it...Id love to see how ownership would react after the Angels or Pirates have to play against AAA teams for awhile.

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by RayW

I thought this was pretty funny! Different Will Smiths, but maybe every team needs to add a player named Will Smith.

It's only 2 different Will Smiths. The same one was with the Dodgers all 3 times they won, and the other was apparently the lucky charm for 3 different teams 3 years in a row.

[BioCRN]

The Tampa Bay Rays, a team in the legit bottom of revenue...a team that currently doesn't have a stadium to play in...a stadium that the owners don't like even when it was operational...that the team doesn't even own the building or the land it's on...

...was purchased a couple months ago for 1.7 billion dollars.

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by nat

I was very confused by this. Why did he slide? It was a force play, there wasn't going to be a tag. Just a mental hiccup? Force plays at home are so rare that players automatically go into "avoid the tag" mode when headed home?

Kirk swinging away was also confusing. They'd already bunted Vlad over, so they already decided to play for a tie. Unless Barger walking changed their calculations significantly (and I don't think it should have - he wasn't going to score from first on a hit), given that they had already bunted Vlad over the play with Kirk should have been a suicide squeeze.

Kirk has 0 sacrifice bunts in his career so asking him to do it in the 11th inning of game 7 is unlikely. There's probably a much better chance he hits a sacrifice fly than gets a bunt down, but unfortunately, a ground ball is a likely double play with his lack of speed, and that's what happened.

[doug.goodman]

All the talk of buying championships and no mention of the Dodgers not winning if Miguel Rojas wasn't on the team in general (ask Mookie about him), and in the lineup the last couple games.

His entire three year deal pays him about 35 games of what Ohtani makes.

[Balticfox]

Originally Posted by nat

I was very confused by this. Why did he slide? It was a force play, there wasn't going to be a tag. Just a mental hiccup? Force plays at home are so rare that players automatically go into "avoid the tag" mode when headed home?

The only explanation is stupidity. For any professional baseball player not to be aware of what's required in a certain specific on-field situation though is unforgivable. It's not nuclear physics. Here he's drawing a salary that's a king's ransom and he shows himself confused by the basics of the game.

Meanwhile Ty Cobb or Pete Rose woud not only have run through the plate but would have put their shoulder into the catcher while doing it to jar the ball loose if needed.

[Balticfox]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

Nothing more ludicrous than a bunch of billionaires complaining that the system isn't fair to them. You want to win? Spend some of Daddy's money. Otherwise, sell the team to someone who is willing to spend.

Is it the owners of the small market teams who are complaining? I don't think so. They're probably happy to just operate at a profit. It's the fans of these teams who do most of the complaining.

To think that the owners should behave like fanboys and operate the team for the good of the community or fan base is just silly.

Originally Posted by Knightlax5

That would be valid if all owners want to win. Not all owners want to win, they want to make a profit. The easiest way for them to be profitable is with revenue sharing and keeping costs down.

Actually I find it difficult to condemn anyone operating in a common sense fashion.

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by Balticfox

It's the fans of these teams who do most of the complaining.

Fans are SUPPOSED to complain, that's OUR job in the organizations, for which 29 in 30 of us get paid with heartbreak.