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Old 12-02-2025, 04:31 AM
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I'm a little surprised that people doubt the card would be desirable. It may not sell at the price it listed for but there is a dedicated community of error and scrap collectors, especially of Topps cards, and the fuglier the card and the greater the rep of the player or issue, the more desirable it is. The most extreme errors carry the highest values:

Blackless 1971 Topps:



Flipped stock 1972 Topps:




Terrible misprints and miscuts:





Printers' scrap is also desirable: Topps printing process items that should never have gotten out of the factory are unique and interesting to collectors of the player or issue. 1971 Topps hockey is one of my favorites and the Hull is my favorite card of his, so I happily acquired this scrap (not from Carmine):



Printing process material issued by the Topps Vault also sell well.

The Mantle looks like printers' scrap used to clear the press between runs that was rescued from the trash and hand cut. My guess is that the sheet had some sort of flaw that was caught in the printing process. To me, the card looks like it is missing the shellac coating on the front. Altered is the wrong designation but the truth still is a strong combo for the collectors who are into that sort of stuff.

As for wrong back wrong/front combos caused by the sheet being fed into the printer at a 180 degree orientation from normal there are collectors. Whether it is a HOF card or not depends on whether you are buying or selling and how clear it is. I have this one:



When I sell it you better believe it is going to be marketed as a 1941 Play Ball Joe DiMaggio error card.

The 'Mantle' and 'Robinson' are great examples of 1952 Topps scraps but may be priced a bit too aggressively for the misprint community given how hard it is to see the superstar elements.
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Did some digging and there was a sgc Mantle overprint back 52’ topps that sold with a common front for almost 5k.
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Old 12-02-2025, 12:15 PM
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Did some digging and there was a sgc Mantle overprint back 52’ topps that sold with a common front for almost 5k.
Cool, got a link?
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Old 12-02-2025, 12:35 PM
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Cool, got a link?
For some reason it got scrubbed from the VCP site. That’s how I found it, searched for sgc A graded by highest sale and there was a common for something like $4,750 and when i clicked it went to an auction house and had a mantle overprint back. Now it’s gone.

Might have to go through every single sgc a on vcp because it might have been covered up by a recent auction of that card in a sgc a slab. It only shows the most recent sale in a set search.

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For some reason it got scrubbed from the VCP site. That’s how I found it, searched for sgc A graded by highest sale and there was a common for something like $4,750 and when i clicked it went to an auction house and had a mantle overprint back. Now it’s gone.
Was the sale during the Covid boom?

Depending on eye appeal that isn't a bad number. I have a hobby friend that collects this exact type of card and his estimate is exactly twice mine.

Taking this type of stuff to auction is very risky in my experience. I have always done way better with a regular sale.
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Bingo thanks! I knew I wasn’t seeing things lol

I saved the info but got a new phone and lost it in the transfer.
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Thank you for the link. To me this is a way better card. The back is upside down so you can clearly see the 311.
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now it isn't even a 1/1 and that back is readable

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I'm a little surprised that people doubt the card would be desirable. It may not sell at the price it listed for but there is a dedicated community of error and scrap collectors, especially of Topps cards, and the fuglier the card and the greater the rep of the player or issue, the more desirable it is. The most extreme errors carry the highest values:

Blackless 1971 Topps:



Flipped stock 1972 Topps:




Terrible misprints and miscuts:





Printers' scrap is also desirable: Topps printing process items that should never have gotten out of the factory are unique and interesting to collectors of the player or issue. 1971 Topps hockey is one of my favorites and the Hull is my favorite card of his, so I happily acquired this scrap (not from Carmine):



Printing process material issued by the Topps Vault also sell well.

The Mantle looks like printers' scrap used to clear the press between runs that was rescued from the trash and hand cut. My guess is that the sheet had some sort of flaw that was caught in the printing process. To me, the card looks like it is missing the shellac coating on the front. Altered is the wrong designation but the truth still is a strong combo for the collectors who are into that sort of stuff.

As for wrong back wrong/front combos caused by the sheet being fed into the printer at a 180 degree orientation from normal there are collectors. Whether it is a HOF card or not depends on whether you are buying or selling and how clear it is. I have this one:



When I sell it you better believe it is going to be marketed as a 1941 Play Ball Joe DiMaggio error card.

The 'Mantle' and 'Robinson' are great examples of 1952 Topps scraps but may be priced a bit too aggressively for the misprint community given how hard it is to see the superstar elements.
Those cards are obvious and display well - it’s hard to see what’s going on with the Metkovich card
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