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[jayshum]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

It's absolutely bonkers that Alonso got more $ than Schwarber (same number of years).

He's a few years younger and also plays a defensive position so not that surprising really.

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by jayshum

He's a few years younger and also plays a defensive position so not that surprising really.

Neither is being signed for their defense and Schwarber is substantially more valuable as a hitter.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

Neither is being signed for their defense and Schwarber is substantially more valuable as a hitter.

talk to me at the end of 5 years about that.

but even before that reckoning I disagree. They're pretty close to identical offensively for their careers looking at OBP, SLG, OPS and OPS+

[Beercan collector]

The Os are interesting - I don’t think there’s another team That rely so much on their draft picks, despite the numbers they are getting every opportunity to prove themselves - they had one of the lowest team salaries in the league before they went after Alonso - new manager - hasn’t equaled success yet but they seem to have a plan

[packs]

I think part of signing Soto would have been to make the Mets an enticing organization for players looking for new teams. But they can't keep their own players on their team.

[Beercan collector]

Originally Posted by packs

I think part of signing Soto would have been to make the Mets an enticing organization for players looking for new teams. But they can't keep their own players on their team.

I think Os keep Mountcastle as the back up - Coby Mayo Would be a smart pick up for somebody - 517 chances at first base last year one error - only 304 major league bats but - now I know it was the minors, he had 906 OPS 1870 plate appearances, He’s eventually gonna hit

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by Beercan collector

The Os are interesting - I don’t think there’s another team That rely so much on their draft picks, despite the numbers they are getting every opportunity to prove themselves - they had one of the lowest team salaries in the league before they went after Alonso - new manager - hasn’t equaled success yet but they seem to have a plan

Yeah, their plan is "we refuse to get better at SP while blocking all of our position player prospects"

[Beercan collector]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

Yeah, their plan is "we refuse to get better at SP while blocking all of our position player prospects"

Gotta agree with that they Need three quality starters - they could’ve kept Mayo/Mountcastle at first and used the Alonso money for pitchers

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by jayshum

He's a few years younger and also plays a defensive position so not that surprising really.

Schwarber has been in the league much longer then Alonso, but is only 9 months older then him.

That said, I agree it’s not surprising. Contracts are pretty similar, one plays a position and one doesn’t. Schwarber might have a higher ceiling, but he also has a lower floor. WAR hates Kyle Schwarber. Alonso has been in the league 4 years less then him, but he still has a higher career WAR. Schwarber may have had the better most recent year, but Alonso has been more consistent overall.

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

Schwarber has been in the league much longer then Alonso, but is only 9 months older then him.

That said, I agree it’s not surprising. Contracts are pretty similar, one plays a position and one doesn’t. Schwarber might have a higher ceiling, but he also has a lower floor. WAR hates Kyle Schwarber. Alonso has been in the league 4 years less then him, but he still has a higher career WAR. Schwarber may have had the better most recent year, but Alonso has been more consistent overall.

Look at their career walk rates, Schwarber's ability to work deep counts...both are poor defenders but Schwarber in LF right now is comparable to Pete at 1st. Both will be full time DHs very soon. Also Schwarber is regarded as a fantastic clubhouse guy, much higher reputation than Pete.

I would guess a "who'd you rather have" survey of Gms would result in far more choosing Schwarber. The Os wanted Schwarber but he turned them down.

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

Schwarber has been in the league much longer then Alonso, but is only 9 months older then him.

That said, I agree it’s not surprising. Contracts are pretty similar, one plays a position and one doesn’t. Schwarber might have a higher ceiling, but he also has a lower floor. WAR hates Kyle Schwarber. Alonso has been in the league 4 years less then him, but he still has a higher career WAR. Schwarber may have had the better most recent year, but Alonso has been more consistent overall.

Schwarber is actually a year and 9 months older than Alonso. Schwarber really only has 2 more full seasons in the league, but Alonso does have the higher WAR.

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by jayshum

Schwarber is actually a year and 9 months older than Alonso. Schwarber really only has 2 more full seasons in the league, but Alonso does have the higher WAR.

Yup, you’re right. I was off on the age. Schwarber has played 283 more games then Alonso, who has been pretty durable his time in the league.

All in all, I’m not too surprised they got pretty similar contracts.

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

Yup, you’re right. I was off on the age. Schwarber has played 283 more games then Alonso, who has been pretty durable his time in the league.

All in all, I’m not too surprised they got pretty similar contracts.

Neither am I, especially since the Orioles had apparently offered Schwarber the same money he got from the Phillies. I think they may have decided they didn't want to miss out on Alonso also, so they upped the offer to him.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

Schwarber has been in the league much longer then Alonso, but is only 9 months older then him.

That said, I agree it’s not surprising. Contracts are pretty similar, one plays a position and one doesn’t. Schwarber might have a higher ceiling, but he also has a lower floor. WAR hates Kyle Schwarber. Alonso has been in the league 4 years less then him, but he still has a higher career WAR. Schwarber may have had the better most recent year, but Alonso has been more consistent overall.

21 months older, you're missing a year in there.