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Old 10-02-2004, 12:38 PM
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Default is this legit? (Mantle cards)

Posted By: Gary B.

First off, this guy has a 100% feedback record of 65 (80 separate transactions) and of those, only TWO are from items he was selling. It would be a perfect scam - buy a lot of items, get a modest (65) perfect feedback rating, and then sell a BIG DOLLAR auction.

Some other signs:

"My dad has been collecting cards for over 50 years and has passed these all down to me, I have no clue what they are worth, probably alot. I only started collecting a few years ago. I really was never into baseball card collecting, I guess I wanted to be like dad it is not for me."

Oh come on now. First of all, why launch into an elaborate story if you're not trying to convince someone about legitimacy. He has no clue what they're worth? He never bought a book or went on the internet, on ebay or anything just for a few minutes to get a general idea? He only started collecting a FEW years ago, but doesn't know what they're worth? How did he collect cards without getting a GENERAL sense of worth at the minimum?

"I have no idea who all these players are. I know some of the new players.I wanted to show everything so I have taken 96 pictures of this auction. I took good pictures of everything, there is so much more. I have been taking pictures and scanning these items for days and to be honest with you, I am done scanning.B elieve me there is ALOT more."

No idea who they are? He wants to give the impression that he's clueless as to how valuable these cards are so you think you're getting a GREAT DEAL. He sure took a lot of pictures, I'll give him that. Is there any good reason why they're ALL blurry?

"I scanned the cards that were in fair condition. Most of the other have not been touched for probably 20 years and are in excellent condition. My dad kept them in plastic wrap. He said he only collect old cards, primarily stars."

How convenient - only old cards and stars. So there are lots more, but he didn't photograph the ones in excellent condition, only the ones in "fair" condition. What gives?


"I am not a professional so you probably know better."

A VERY common scammer line - wants you to think you know much better than him so again you think you're making off like a bandit.

"No guarantees, all sales are final and as is."

Another VERY common scammer line. That's a lot of money to spend without a guarantee, don't you think?

"I only except personal checks, money orders, cashier checks and certified checks. Please allow personal checks 14 business days to clear all other out of town checks 5 to 7 business days to clear."

Harder to get your money back than with paypal. Another common scammer line - and the time for checks to clear seems a bit long perhaps.

"My future wife is very stern on one rule, no coming to my home. Last time I listed something, I had people show up at my home without permission, and tons of calls from dealers. Please understand.."

Before even finishing reading this auction, I was going to suggest asking him if you could pick these cards up so you could see them for yourself, but he's already anticipated this (a common scammer technique). His future wife, huh? Very convenient. And this part is totally ridiculous - he's had people show up at his house without permission? How? Did he give out his address? When, on the two auctions where he was a seller? Tons of calls from dealers? Did he give out his phone number? Give me a break.

I wouldn't go anywhere NEAR this thing...

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