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Negro League Cards???
Posted By: Gary B.
Someone posting on the buy/sell/trade thread got me thinking. |
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Negro League Cards???
Posted By: Bryan
I would love to see a real josh gibson but I don't think one was ever made. I'm curious to see what others have to say. |
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Negro League Cards???
Posted By: Mark
Gary, there were cards made of Negro League Hall of Famers during their playing days in Cuba, Puerto Rico, Venezuela, Mexico, and the Dominican Republic. Check out Ryan C.'s website: http://www.cubanbaseballcards.com/NegroHOFers.html |
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Negro League Cards???
Posted By: Bryan
Does anyone happen to own the Josh Gibson card? How rare is it? I would love to get my hands on that one. This is the first time I have heard that thecard even exists so this is a pleasure for me since I now have a new card for my must-have list. |
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Negro League Cards???
Posted By: Paul
Ryan is definitely the expert, and his website is informative. The most common cards picturing Negro League players are from Cuba from the 1940s, with the most common HOFers being Dihigo and Dandridge. They used to be pretty cheap, but now even a thrashed one is probably at least $100, and one in nice shape is probably several hundred. |
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Negro League Cards???
Posted By: Paul
I didn't read Bryan's last post about the Gibson very carefully. Ryan owned the Gibson and sold or traded it. I don't know if he's at liberty to say who the new owner is. There may be only one known example of this card. I don't know for sure. Again, Ryan would be the one to ask. |
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Negro League Cards???
Posted By: Anonymous
I went to Ryan's site and he says this: |
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Negro League Cards???
Posted By: Paul
The Cuban cards were created mostly for the Cuban leagues, occassionally for the US major leagues, once for a US minor league in Florida, but never for the US Negro Leagues. The Puerto Rican cards were create for the Puerto Rican League. The "Negro League" cards are actually Cuban League and Puerto Rican League cards. Negro Leaguers commonly played in both these leagues and as a result have cards in those sets. One player is shown in his Negro League uniform -- Don Newcombe, but he is listed as a member of a Cuban team. |
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Negro League Cards???
Posted By: Ryan Christoff
First, let me say that here are no "Negro League" baseball cards. The only cards that feature Negro Leaguers are from foreign countries. |
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Negro League Cards???
Posted By: Gary B.
In fact thanks so much for answering my questions so thoroughly. Quite frankly, I'm amazed that this is all that exists of these players in terms of cards. I guess the market really wasn't there (or the money) for even a local issue of any kind in the States. Even the Pacific Coast League and other minor leagues had cards, but I guess this will forever be a part of history that was criminally uncommemorated (if that's even a word) by such things. Sad. |
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Negro League Cards???
Posted By: Hal Lewis
Paul... |
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Negro League Cards???
Posted By: Gilbert Maines
Gary: an interesting (to me) subset of Negro League players is that grouping of players who did make it to the majors. There are dozens of cards in this grouping, all readily available although not always inexpensive. Players including Banks, Mays, Aaron, Paige, Campanella and others were all former Negro Leaguers. |
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Negro League Cards???
Posted By: Ryan Christoff
Gilbert, |
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Negro League Cards???
Posted By: Gilbert Maines
Thats great information Ryan! More than half of those cards I do not have yet, and didn't even know I needed. I will add them to my wantlist. |
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Negro League Cards???
Posted By: Julie
how |
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Negro League Cards???
Posted By: Paul
Now I'm also glad I didn't win that Lloyd card. |
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Negro League Cards???
Posted By: Hal Lewis
Actually Paul, I was knew it was fake, but I was paid by the seller to act as a shill so that YOU would bid on the card and buy it. |
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Negro League Cards???
Posted By: Max Weder
Further to Ryan's post about American cards for Cuban players in the 40s and 50s, here's a scan of the front and back of a Cuban card of Monte Irvin. It's a blow-up of the front of the card. I don't have the card, and Monte signed the copy as part of a fund-raiser for Conrado (Connie) Marrero, who is alive and well at 94 and living in Cuba but on a very meagre government pension, with no ability to receive assistance from such organizations such as BAT. Marrero was also three months short of receiving a major league pension (which would be moot even with sufficient service, because he wouldn't be able to receive it in Cuba) |
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Negro League Cards???
Posted By: Ryan Christoff
Max, |
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Negro League Cards???
Posted By: Max Weder
Thanks for the information Ryan. I should have not assumed it was a card when the copy was presented to me. |
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Negro League Cards???
Posted By: Ryan Christoff
Bryan, |
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Negro League Cards???
Posted By: Mike McGrail
This is not real, but I really like it! |
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Negro League Cards???
Posted By: Max Weder
One of the first baseball paintings done by my better half: |
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Negro League Cards???
Posted By: Gilbert Maines
I like it too, Mike. I wonder how much you could make on eBay with it. |
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Negro League Cards???
Posted By: Mike McGrail
I can't list the Gibson on eBay as it doesn't even physically exist yet. The card is still only a digital image at this stage. I am, however, planning on having a batch actually made in the next few months. Still trying to find a printer here in Holland to help. |
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Negro League Cards???
Posted By: Gilbert Maines
Since when is "not physically existing" a criteria for eBay listings? |
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Negro League Cards???
Posted By: Mike McGrail
... which side of the SCAM line you are working from! 8-) |
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Negro League Cards???
Posted By: Gilbert Maines
The excuse is to get a feeling for your sales potential before you go into production. Should you print a dozen or 200? No, I am not recommending listing an item which does not exist. I am kidding! |
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