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Adam Moraine
Posted By: leon
At this time Mr.Moraine (contrary to his belief) will not be joining our party anymore. This is not a board that is "open to all no matter what you say". If you are detrimental to the board you will leave. He has been escorted to the door..... regards |
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Adam Moraine
Posted By: T206Collector
While I think banishment from the Board is a very serious action, there is no doubt in my mind that this action was entirely appropriate under the circumstances. |
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Adam Moraine
Posted By: Dan Koteles
your the best....... |
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Adam Moraine
Posted By: Texas Ted
Thank you Leon, it was difficult to hold my tongue after some of his postings, and you have just reduced my stress level. |
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Adam Moraine
Posted By: Josh K.
No argument here. |
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Adam Moraine
Posted By: Anonymous
Although I'm not sure a thread should be devoted to this, it is an appropriate action. No person is bigger than the boards, and anytime the idiocy of a person is the story, there is a problem. |
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Adam Moraine
Posted By: leon
Since it affects all on the board I want to let folks know what is being done about it. There was no other way except this to let it be known. It also helps folks understand that it is a privilege to post on the board, not a right. Banning someone is the absolute last thing us moderators want to ever do, however when someone is bad for the board and we get bombarded with private emails, something needs to be done. regards |
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Adam Moraine
Posted By: Brian McQueen
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Adam Moraine
Posted By: Hal Lewis
Two thumbs up! |
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Adam Moraine
Posted By: leon
Since I've been out the last several days I don't know everything that has gone on. I am not against reinstating anyone at some point in the future. Adam will probably need to call me and have a chat about board policies and procedures though. Brian and I just want this to be a nice, clean, place to come and learn about vintage baseball cards. Neither he nor I hate anyone on the board and EVERYONE learns from experience(s). I hope Adam will make contact with me in the near future and we hash things out. regards |
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Adam Moraine
Posted By: Anson
This board has been a tremendous resource for my collecting. The last thing I would want to do is shoot it out the door by posting inappropriate comments and making enemies. |
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Adam Moraine
Posted By: J Levine
Simply put..thank you Leon... |
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Adam Moraine
Posted By: DJ
I commend you guys for this action. |
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Adam Moraine
Posted By: Bryan
I just couldn't understand that guy. This board is probobly the best place online to learn about vintage cards which he claims he really enjoys but all he did was mock, irritate, and degrade everyone here. Too bad his grandpa didn't tell him to listen to people who know more than you, you might just learn something. |
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Adam Moraine
Posted By: ockday
Even though I didn't get involved in his very well deserved bashing..I commend Leon for this action. |
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Adam Moraine
Posted By: warshawlaw
I thank you as always for your attention to keeping the spirit of our board neutral and pleasant. We all deal with enough stupidity in our lives without it spilling into the realm of our hobby. |
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Adam Moraine
Posted By: andy becker
good move leon! i have, like others, bit my tongue many times in wanting to respond to adam's childish posts. |
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Adam Moraine
Posted By: Wesley
I think it was a necessary move despite losing all the useful knowledge and information from the premier collector in the state of Iowa. |
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Adam Moraine
Posted By: Greg Ecklund
Ugh...Adam, I remember that "Dummycrat" message and how it made me cringe that Mr.Moraine was anywhere near me on the political spectrum. I think his removal from the board is a "bipartisan" issue...LOL. |
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Adam Moraine
Posted By: dennis
the "B*** me" line in his last post had to seal his fate. |
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Adam Moraine
Posted By: Chris Bland
Hate to see someone get booted, but if there ever was a worthy candidate, it was this guy. Thanks Leon and Brian for making this move, and a double thanks to Brian who waded through those posts while Leon didnt have access to the board. |
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Adam Moraine
Posted By: DJ
Adam Moraine, VBC Member (March 5, 2005- July 31, 2005) |
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Adam Moraine
Posted By: T206Collector
...but you forgot to add his "highest bid with only 59 seconds left" eBay auction for a Cobb Red Portrait to the "Moraine on eBay" paragraph, which I thought was priceless. |
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Adam Moraine
Posted By: tbob
We card collectors are sometimes wrongly perceived as "nerds." This guy was one. Thanks leon. |
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Adam Moraine
Posted By: Glenn
Ah, very good news. My wife will be a little disappointed though. She always enjoyed reading his comments and laughing with me at the guy. |
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Adam Moraine
Posted By: Bryan
He made that nice long argument on why low grade cards are worthless but I beat him out on a 1949 Bowman Feller psa1 a couple of weeks ago and he has lost twice on a low grade t206 Cobb portrait in the same time period. In fact the only thing he has won are a couple of "shiny" new Feller cards and some autograph pictures. |
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Adam Moraine
Posted By: will watson
a few nights ago, he started harassing me over instant messenger, using the cute screen name "sexytexasbabe18f." accusing me of being KuntryBoy on the PSA boards, which im not. he threatened to kick my a** several times, endlessly called me vulgar names, and generally acted like an idiot. the guy seriously has some growing up to do |
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Adam Moraine
Posted By: Julie
I know all about it....when someone resorts to expressions like "bl*w me" (in print, on this board) they are under terrible stress. |
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Adam Moraine
Posted By: Bob Rousseau
like Koos, Adam wasn't an "ordinary human being". He might not have been AS contemptable as Koos (that would be an accomplishment), but regardless, he similarly seemed to have troll tendencies of just wanting to get into duke it out with people to keep his adrenelin going. |
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Adam Moraine
Posted By: Richard Lloyd
Just an outsider looking in: |
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Adam Moraine
Posted By: Julie
and instead of a nice writing space, you found an "no Richards need apply" announcement? |
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Adam Moraine
Posted By: DJ
Julie, I understand where you are coming from, but I don't think in this case that it would do any good. Simply put, his behavior has offended...pretty much the whole Board and coming back would only produce Forum friction. I have never in my entire life ever thought about telling another person to "b--- me". Even when I was like ten years old. |
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Adam Moraine
Posted By: Richard Lloyd
Yes Julie...I did feel moved to write this...I think Adam needs to |
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Adam Moraine
Posted By: Bryan
Richard, |
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Adam Moraine
Posted By: Dan Koteles
there is a point to make here is that the board will not tolerate profane bashing of another member and those who risk this can be banned. There is a comfort to knowing these rediculous posts will not be here anymore. I emailed him with an offer on a nice red Cobb 10 bucks over what I paid for it. |
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Adam Moraine
Posted By: John
Leon & Brian; |
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Adam Moraine
Posted By: Lee Behrens
A quick thanks to Leon and Brian, it was well deserved. |
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Adam Moraine
Posted By: Brian
I think the correct decision was made by Leon & Brian. |
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Adam Moraine
Posted By: Bryan
Looks like he has moved on. |
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Adam Moraine
Posted By: Bob Rousseau
he implies that there's something wrong with being a millionaire ("millionaire's club" used in contempt), yet it's clear from his early posts that that's what he really aspires to. That bird's riddled with loathing: of others and somewhat of his self. ['millionaire's club'- Lord knows there are probably few of us fit that description but as to those that do- who gives a doody? Does that mean we've got nothing in common? What we have in common is love for the beautiful work on these old pieces of cardboard and the thrill of the hunt- whether you can afford the top shelf stuff or not! |
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Adam Moraine
Posted By: Greg Ecklund
It always bugs me when others assume that certain collectors are investors simply because they have the bucks to afford the best of the best...some people lack the ability to admire these collections and can only look on them with envy or jealousy. |
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Adam Moraine
Posted By: tbob
"In fact, thus far, I am up $200.00 from this time last year." |
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Adam Moraine
Posted By: Scott Elkins
I can remember back when I was one of the youngest posters on John Spencer's "original" board. Glad to see people younger than myself collecting vintage! Though, the youngest vintage collector I know is still my 2 year old daughter (she loves to collect cards of players with gloves and of Ty Cobb). |
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Adam Moraine
Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
I think I never really bashed the guy because I felt sorry for him. Case in point: the comment about the 200 buck stock market gain in a year. It's sad in a way. How can you hate the guy when he's just so young and clueless and pathetic? No doubt he deserved to be banned..but I don't think he's nasty; just sad and clueless. |
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Adam Moraine
Posted By: Bill Kasel
I have absolutely no compassion for Adam. He is not "young". He is a 24 year old arrogant, self absorbed adult who if he hasn't grown up yet has little chance to do so. I am one who has earned every dollar I have. Most goes to supporting my family, and what little is left over a portion goes to cards. Good riddence to bad rubbish. The board is FAR better off without him. |
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Adam Moraine
Posted By: MW
"I don't care if Adam is a (technical) moron, or says stupid things every time he opens his mouth, has a huge chip on his shoulder, and badmouths half the board. I think Leon or Brian should talk with him, and cool him down, and exact some promises, and invite him back." |
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Adam Moraine
Posted By: Gilbert Maines
I believe that the focus of this forum is baseball cards. It is not a venue for helping young adults to grow up. |
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Adam Moraine
Posted By: warshawlaw
Let's devote some time to other stuff; bashing this loon is just too easy. |
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Adam Moraine
Posted By: leon
I agree. I am going to go ahead and lock this thread. We have all had time to give our opinion. I would love to try to help Adam if he wants it. Until then he can just lurk if he wants to. I don't think Adam is a bad person just a little confused, and a little young, and needs some more experience(s) to learn from. On the CU board he is taking the same ribbing. If he contacts me, and we talk in person (on the phone) about life in general and board etiquette, then I think he could still be a valued board member. I know I have made more than my share of mistakes but the older I get the fewer of these type I make. (*don't get me wrong I still make some, just not quite as many). Actually I see a lot of me in Adam, although from about 20 years ago. Let's get back to talking about cards.....One last point though. Adam is not the first one to say that it is his "right" to post on this board. That is far from the truth. Think of this board as your drivers license. It's real easy to keep it, but if you mess up too much, it can be taken away just like the board privileges can. regards all |
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