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Posted By: John
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Posted By: John
Great story John. And Amen to your assessment of the hobby. It has changed drastically in the past twenty years. I have to believe that if the bubble burst next week and all of our collections were worth next to nothing most of us would happily continue collecting without much grumbling. It is the love of history, baseball, and collecting mementos from a simpler time that fuels my fire. |
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Posted By: dennis
wonka,great post......"It is the love of history, baseball, and collecting mementos from a simpler time that fuels my fire" my feeling's too, johnb. |
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Posted By: identify7
I think that we are all on target. I believe that we are collecting exactly what each of us prefers, and although our preferences differ, they are based on our assessments of what is right for each of us. |
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Posted By: cmoking
agree with identity7 |
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Posted By: jay behrens
To me, an advanced collector is someone with vast and intimate knoweldge of what he collects. This doesn't mean they have know everything about everything, just what they collect and that collection doesn't need to be large. Hell, there are people out there with massive collections that don't know squat about their cards beyond some basic info about the player and set. A million dollar collection of slabbed cards doesn't automatically make you an advanced collector, no longer how long you've been in the hobby. |
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Posted By: Chris Counts
John, |
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Posted By: Julie
Ben kept me from feeling so competitive; I don't like that lately, in the chatroom, posting. Always feeling "less than" some other collector, because I have less money to spend. Also, a website makes it so easy to look at scans of your cards, you stop looking at the cards themselves. I still know what to bid on (very much looking forward to my PSA 1 OJ Boston Kelly portrait), but I'll just put it on my website and put it away....and look at the scan once in a while. |
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Posted By: David Vargha
Alright, here's how I see it . . . Some people feel they are being looked down upon by those with larger and more expensive collections. So they in turn look down upon those people. Some people feel others are too competitive and elitist, so they take an elitist stance about not being competitive. Some people are happy that their collections are worth alot more, but unhappy that cards cost more. Others long for the "good old days" when it was impossible to find things (no Internet) and the card you were looking for showed up in the SCD ad in the copy that you received two weeks late (and after the card had been sold). They are disappointed by the crass commercialism of the market today. Some people look down their noses at people who use grading services and still others think people who buy raw cards only are foolish and naïve. I have even heard of (gasp!) people who collect cards from the 60's and 70's (but these are only unsubstantiated rumors). |
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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
David, you just about hit the nail squzrely on the head. I've always felt that this hobby is one of the purest things left for me in this world. For the same reason I've never bet on a ball game I refuse to buy and sell cards for profit. Every card I own, from the ones worth thousands of dollars to those worth a penny, are not considered part of my 'assets' in life. If they go down in value dollar-wise it won't impact on my love for baseball cards. I only hope that I can pass this love for the game and the hobby onto my kids and that they'll have the same lack of monetary interest in it. |
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Posted By: DJ
This is a good thread and only improved by the people who "get it". I agree with John and David. |
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Posted By: Texas Ted
John: |
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Posted By: Rhys
John's story was great. It made me think of something in my life as well. My father is 71 years and will probably not make it to the end of the year due to bad health and a series of strokes. He was never much of a card guy but huge into antiques. One year for Christmas he found a VGish T3 of Eddie Collins and bought it for me as a surprise Christmas gift. Reflecting on my father and the things which we did in life together knowing he will not be here much longer than a few more months, really makes you think about the good in the hobby. |
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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
Rhys, fair points about dealers and thanks for the sentiment about your dad. I think in times like this you should remember how lucky you are to have a father like that -- and to have him for as long as you have is even luckier. |
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Posted By: tbob
Wonderful post which said a lot of things a lot of us have been trying to say for years. I know whenever I get disappointed or blue because someone here can afford a $10,000 card with no grimace or dent to their bank account, can easily outbid me and I trudge along with 4s and 5s instead of 8s and 9s, I flip on the DVD player and watch Ken Burn's Baseball, particularly the chapter called "The Faith of Fifty Million People (Inning 3)" and it never fails to instantly make those blues go away and remind me of the people depicted on the little pieces of cardboard we cherish who are and were so much more important than their lithographic imprints. |
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Posted By: BlackSoxFan
John - |
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Posted By: John Harrell
I've been collecting baseball cards off and on since 1952 but with a bent toward prewar sets since 1990 and my perspective on collecting is much like Dan McKee's. I have nothing against those who want to collect the best of something but, in my opinion, the slabbing of cards has turned the focus of collecting from the card to the plastic slab and the opinions of those who placed the card in the slab. I consider myself to be a fairly knowledgable collector who can grade cards for himself without a middleman and since I collect only lower grade cards, slabbing only gets in the way and artifcially inflates what I have to pay. |
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Posted By: Bill Cornell
Have we begun to lose our way a bit? |
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Posted By: barry arnold
what great wisdom, John. |
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Posted By: Anonymous
...what other "hobbies" have a return on the dollars put into them ? |
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Posted By: Julie
was negligible. The dollar signs sort of crept up on us...when I read the list of the cards I and my son bought in 1980-81, and the prices we paid...it's almost unbelievable! Didn't make it LESS fun because it was LESS expensive! |
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Posted By: BlackSoxFan
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