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Card rage
Posted By: tbob
Much like road rage. Does anyone else ever experience it? When someone snipes you repeatedly on cards with no one else bidding: at first it is an oddity, then it becomes a curiosity, then it becomes a pain and then you start looking for auctions he has bid on to return the favor. The problem is that with the sniping services a lot of people now never bid on an item until the snipe hits home. |
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Card rage
Posted By: T206Collector
...I only won one of the e95's I bid on tonight (thought I did snipe you on that one): |
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Card rage
Posted By: Chad
I got bid up today on a lot of strip cards. Like an idiot, I got caught up in the bidding and paid more than I wanted. Out of curiosity I checked the items my one competitor has bought and, besides a few miscellaneous 50's commons, it was mostly the new stuff--parallells and inserts and such. I wonder why he suddenly was interested in "my" lot of w513's, a set I didn't think had much mass appeal. Oh well. It was good for the seller from whom I've gotten good stuff from for cheap. I'll chalk it up to karma. |
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Card rage
Posted By: Steve Dawson
I'm going through a cold streak right now. |
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Card rage
Posted By: tbob
Steve- I know exactly what you mean. I haven't won anything (other than a BIN or two) on ebay in forever. If not for the B/S/T thread and fellow collectors, I would be 0 for the last 2 months. |
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Card rage
Posted By: barry arnold
i think you've come up with a new 'pathology' for the |
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Card rage
Posted By: Kenny Cole
Used to be, there were a few people who I had a gentleman's agreement with that whoever saw it first and bid on it first didn't have me to contend with. That seems to be no longer the case. What goes around comes around. |
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Card rage
Posted By: Paul Stratton
Excellent phrase Bob. I've often wondered what it was I was feeling after getting sniped on something that nobody else seemed to want for 6 days 23 hours and 59 seconds. |
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Card rage
Posted By: barrysloate
I know people get frustrated when they don't win many auction lots, but the fact is the lot goes to the highest bidder. No reason to get angry just because somebody placed a higher bid. Using the snipe service is fair and square. And some have more money than others, you can't help that. I would get angry if I felt something unethical was done by the winning bidder, but how can you blame somebody just for being willing to pay a little more than you. And everyone knows that on ebay the first 6 days, 23 hours, 59 minutes, and 50 seconds mean a lot less than the last 10 seconds. |
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Card rage
Posted By: dennis
it's not that someone is not interested but rather watching it and putting in their best bid at the last minute. it's not when you bid but how much you bid.i lose a lot of auctions too and it is frustrating! |
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Card rage
Posted By: pete
it bothers me since the cards i'm bidding on are for my personal collection...and when i get outbid at the last second, i only hope that person is doing the same and not just planning on turning it around a few weeks later...b*stards! |
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Card rage
Posted By: Dan Lundrigan
TBob sounds as if you know who the person is that outbid you not just his username.Why not try contacting him,maybe he was upgrading some of those cards you were outbid on.Ask if he has a lower grade one to sell,just a thought.Maybe a more accurate term should be SNIPE RAGE!I hate it when I get sniped.Nobody on the internet can hear my screams,but my neighbors think I have Touretts! |
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Card rage
Posted By: dennis
pete about a year ago i was outbid ,in a 2 week period,on 3 1935 goudey cards by kityoung cards and the only thing i can get some satisfaction from is my snipes were pretty high so they did not get that good of a price, as i know these weren't for his collection! yes it does suck getting outbid by the flippers of ebay! |
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Card rage
Posted By: T206Collector
If you bid on an ebay auction with more than 30 seconds left you are simply throwing money away. Better yet, make it 20 or 15 seconds. This is a no-brainer. I can honestly say that in the last five years of ebaying, I have never bid seriously on an auction with more than 30 seconds left. It is not only a huge waste of money, but it invites the kind of sniping that is so obviously irksome. The only reason you should bid on an auction with more than 30 seconds left is if you are best friends with the seller and want to drive the price up for him. |
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Card rage
Posted By: Scott Forrest
About a year ago there was someone who paid through the roof for any photo by Conlon, Thompson, Bain, etc. It was frustrating because I only wanted a few and he seemed to bid indiscriminately and was my only competition. So I did experience what you describe, and started running him up $100 or so on each photo...didn't slow him down a bit. Eventually he got bored with photos and I was able to get a few I wanted, but not the Conlon Nap Rucker |
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Card rage
Posted By: warshawlaw
I use the snipe service so I don't have to add watching auctions to my list of stuff to remember. As far as I am concerned, if someone wants something more than I do and I put my best bid in there, fair enough. |
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Card rage
Posted By: Julie Vognar
I know that to win a desirable card, you have to snipe really high, and sometimes, I just don't have the dough, so I pray that nobody will oput-snipe me (b ut I know in my heart they will)I've been outbid on abouit 5 of the last 7 auctions I've bid in. |
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Card rage
Posted By: Chad
I show early bids on cards once in a while if I think the card is ONLY a bargain at its opening bid and that others might think the same thing. If it's a 20 dollar card, and the opening bid is 19.99, I'll go ahead and bid right away with the idea that people aren't going to want to get in a bidding war for something that's not a bargain. It works a lot of the time. Most of the time I snipe, tho. We all have our theories and practices we're comfortable when it comes to Ebay, I guess. |
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Card rage
Posted By: Jim Novotny
I guess that I am just old fashioned. I bid the maximum amount for a card that I want to pay, I dont use a sniping service and I probably bid too early (beyond 30 seconds). So far it has worked for me, but I am new to the hobby and havent had the money yet to go after the more expensive cards. I guess I am still playing in the minor leagues. |
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Card rage
Posted By: tbob
Can't be me, tbob October 3 2005, 9:35 PM |
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Card rage
Posted By: jay behrens
The only time I really had this experience was when I was seriously collecting Indian cards. I used to be able to pick up A&G Indians for $20-25 each. Then one day, this guy shows up buying every Indian card in sight. I decided on one auction to push his bid. I quit at $125 and still wasn't the high bidder. Every time I saw his name on an auction, I punched in $125 bid. The guy put together a very expensive set by the time he was done. |
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Card rage
Posted By: T206Collector
Since September 17 -- but you get outsniped all the time by tons of people. You also win your fair share of auctions. But rest assured, I do not look to see what tbob has bid on to determine where I'll be bidding next. I'm only after T206 and E95 cards that I need to complete/upgrade those sets. |
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Card rage
Posted By: Frank Wakefield
Well I bid on cards sometimes with 6 days left... and I'm serious about my bid when I do that. I don't consider it money thrown away... |
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Card rage
Posted By: Brian
Frank: |
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Card rage
Posted By: Bryan
I know exactly who you are referring to. I got so annoyed with him I would overbid on photos just to make him pay for them. I am sure he didn't care though. Probobly worth it to him. Eventually I got a couple of Conlon photos. |
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Card rage
Posted By: Nick
I tend to bid early, because I'm a lowball bidder and often bidding on cheap items. |
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Card rage
Posted By: T206Collector
The only early bid strategy that makes any sense to me is setting a number above which no reasonable person would go, and even then I find it a bit suspect because when it comes to auctions, people are not reasonable. Again, the earlier you bid, the more you are likely to pay for an item; the more you are likely to lose a bid for an item; and the more money you are giving to the seller. |
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Card rage
Posted By: Rob (NYC)
What is the closest time that most snipes occur? Ten seconds? Five seconds? I usually do a manual snipe with 5 seconds left at about an extra 10% more than my persnal max. If it gets sniped after that, someone out there wanted more than I did and/or has more firepower than I have. Either way, I tried and won't be disappointed. |
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Card rage
Posted By: barrysloate
I find that even if you manually put a bid in with 20-30 seconds to go there still isn't enough time for another bidder to see your bid, recalculate his maximum, and get it in under the gun. The bottom line is not when you snipe but how high your bid is. If I put in a $1000 ceiling on a $100 lot the day before and you bid $500 with 5 seconds left, you still lose. |
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Card rage
Posted By: jay behrens
I drop in early bids on items all the time. Part of it is for tracking ourposes, but it is also a bid that if I win, I got a nice lot at a good price. I almost never go back and bid a second time on something I bid on early. I've had pretty good success with this. Most of the time, I get outbid, but I win often enough to make worthwhile to make these bids. |
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Card rage
Posted By: T206Collector
<<If I put in a $1000 ceiling on a $100 lot the day before and you bid $500 with 5 seconds left, you still lose.>> |
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Card rage
Posted By: barrysloate
Of course I was just using an example and when you bid early you do just set a target for the other bidders. But my point was it's not who bids last, but who bids highest. Perhaps a better example would be if I bid $1000 with 30 seconds to go and another bidder goes $500 with 5 seconds to go.Then last doesn't matter. |
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Card rage
Posted By: Elliot
30 seconds is plenty of time to get another bid in, if it's not enough. To be safe I think you need to snipe with 10 seconds or less. |
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Card rage
Posted By: barrysloate
30 seconds barely gives another bidder time to get in. If he quickly types in one wrong character, he's done. So make it 20 seconds, if you feel that's safer. |
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Card rage
Posted By: Scott Forrest
Sniping is the way to go. |
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Card rage
Posted By: J Levine
I agree with Jay on this one...I often bid the minimum on a lot just to track it and then either snipe it later if it is something I want or bid quietly at the end of auction. Every now and then, the minimum wins and I am very happy. |
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Card rage
Posted By: daviddbreadman
Like Jay I only bid early on stuff that I will only want if my 'low bid' gets hit. I'll almost never go back and raise my bid on those. I always snipe manually for any card I really want with 5 secs to go. |
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Card rage
Posted By: jay behrens
Davis, sounds like you snipe the way I do, only I use 3 screens instead of 4. With a cable connection, I no longer have to worry about dropped connections. |
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Card rage
Posted By: Julie Vognar
It pops into my mind ALL DAY LONG, and I have to keep myself from Thinking About It so nobody will see it plastered on my forehead! |
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