Buying graded cards with intentions to break free to resubmit for higher grades?

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Posted By: MikeW

How many of you are in the habit of buying cards that you think could grade higher with intentions of breaking them free and resubmitting them?

Also, what are your percentages of success at obtaining higher grades?

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Posted By: Joann

I've considered it on a few of my buys, but have never actually done it. With SGC cards I ususally like the look in the holder and keep it. With PSA I either keep it in the holder or break it out but never send it in. More just disorganized than anything else.

J

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Posted By: BobS

Hi Joann,

It's nice to hear that someone else has their collection in a disorganized state. I've got items in every room of my littlle house.(yes kitchen and bathroom included)

Regards.

Bob

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Posted By: steve f

I try to buy raw mostly...

Because Beckett is the Rodney Dangerfield of vintage grading, I've cracked a dozen or so BVG's and submitted to SGC. The re-grading was surprisingly comparable and never a reject. But most buyers prefer SGC or PSA and the SGC holders look classier (but can be unsafe for thin or folded issues).

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Posted By: BobS

Just curious as to what you meant by SGC holders might be dangerous for thin or folded issues.

Thanks.

Bob

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Posted By: steve f

Bob,
I once owned a SGC T202 and because of the card design (akin to a restaurant menu), the raised player end worked it's way between the black gasket and the clear face. It's a design snafu in that the holder allows a gap and could be remedied by a thicker gasket. I was lucky to catch the flaw and made it a point to store this holder flat and not upright.

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Posted By: Rob

Been a previous thread how a T222 card (really photograph paper) how it came out of the insert and crimped a corner.

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Posted By: Lee Behrens

I personally have had a least a couple hundred T202s graded by SGC in my posession. I have only had one come out of the gasket, just a little tap on the counter and it was back in place. now GAI on the other hand has some real problems with this on cards of all types.

I have cracked out and resubmitted, some success some dissapointments (a couple came back trimmed). Mostly to change from other holders to SGC.

Lee

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Posted By: BobS

Thanks, Steve, Rob, and Lee.

Bob

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Posted By: edacra

Wouldn't you need a 6 grade or higher for most graded cards to start commanding a real premium though?

I don't know if there's any rule of thought on this, but it would seem to me that with pricing fluctuations, the average card would need to grade at least 2 grades higher to make it worthwhile. Any thoughts?

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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman

I don't agree. A one grade difference can be worth thousands of dollars on some issues. But for really expensive cards, who has the nerve to crack out a 7 and hope for an 8 - when you may get back a 6?

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Posted By: edacra

Oh true, if we're talking about cards strictly in the $1,000 and up range....

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Posted By: Gilbert Maines

I would think that you could make a profit buying/cracking/resubmitting if you bought the cards in person. However, if you try to do this based on scans, I bet that many which you receive will be lesser cards than you thought, and probably graded accurately.