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Matty Mystery Item - Help me identify
Posted By: Joe D.
I posted this in the pickup thread.... |
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Matty Mystery Item - Help me identify
Posted By: Dan Bretta
Joe, it's a New England Gum Company Mathewson. Says so right on the back. |
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Matty Mystery Item - Help me identify
Posted By: Matt
I think many of us saw it on ebay - glad someone from the board picked it up and interested to see what it is. Nothing like it in SCD as far as I can tell. |
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Matty Mystery Item - Help me identify
Posted By: Joe D.
I picked it up at the Reading Show. |
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Matty Mystery Item - Help me identify
Posted By: fkw
Similar to a 1913 Baseball Magazine premium, except the image of Matty is different. The caption is very similar design. |
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Matty Mystery Item - Help me identify
Posted By: Matt
Joe - I don't have the ebay number - the auction ended about a month ago if someone keeps the records. If I recall correctly, it ended at about $50. |
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Matty Mystery Item - Help me identify
Posted By: Joe D.
I just tested it with a blacklight... |
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Matty Mystery Item - Help me identify
Posted By: fkw
If you do a Google Search with "New England Gum Co." you will see it was on eBay with the price being $14.50 after 3 bids and 1 day 14 hours 5 min. left. The seller also listed it as 1930's. |
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Matty Mystery Item - Help me identify
Posted By: Matt
Frank - thanks for the tip - here it is (I was a bit off on the closing price): |
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Matty Mystery Item - Help me identify
Posted By: Dan Bretta
Adam Warshaw has a New England Gum Company Boxing flip card of Jeffries and Johnson. |
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Matty Mystery Item - Help me identify
Posted By: Dan Bretta
The one on ebay appears to be the exact same one and sold for $100. |
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Matty Mystery Item - Help me identify
Posted By: Joe D.
I will contact the seller of that item. |
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Matty Mystery Item - Help me identify
Posted By: Matt
Joe - if it helps, I contacted the seller when it was on ebay and he said he knew nothing more about it then what it said on the back. |
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Matty Mystery Item - Help me identify
Posted By: Joe D.
I didn't see your newest post and I just shot an email off to him. |
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Matty Mystery Item - Help me identify
Posted By: Frank Wakefield
My recollection is that Matty was on 2 Baseball Magazine premiums. I have the second one. I have not seen the earlier version... are you certain that early version has the same image?? |
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Matty Mystery Item - Help me identify
Posted By: Joe D.
I have illuminated this with the blacklight. |
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Matty Mystery Item - Help me identify
Posted By: fkw
Matty was in 1913, and also in 1941. I believe the 1913 has a different picture with his leg up high in mid windup. I dont know what the 1941 one looks like. |
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Matty Mystery Item - Help me identify
Posted By: davidcycleback
repeat post |
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Matty Mystery Item - Help me identify
Posted By: davidcycleback
Interestingly, Goudey and Delong Gum companies were based in Boston and National Chicle in Cambridge. Perhaps Metropolitan Boston was the world gum mecca. If it can be established that there was a New England Gum Company, or at least spin off brand name, in Cambridge, that would help establish the legitimacy of the card. It would rule out that some faker made up an imaginary company name to stamp on back. If it is discovered that the company existed, the name is so obscure it would be hard to believe that stamp is anything but genuine. In practice, forgers don't use real names no one has heard of, as that's a pointless exersize. They make up imaginary names that sound good or 'borrow' names collectors are familiar with. More often than not, they opt to use the familiar real names (Old Judge, Goudey, Topps, Charles Conlon, Goodwin & Co., etc) |
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Matty Mystery Item - Help me identify
Posted By: Joe D.
Thanks for that link Frank. |
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Matty Mystery Item - Help me identify
Posted By: Frank Wakefield
Here's the later Mathewson premium, M114. My scanner isn't quite wide enough for this, it lacks a bit of the side margins. |
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Matty Mystery Item - Help me identify
Posted By: Matt
Any possibility it's a page from a book? |
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Matty Mystery Item - Help me identify
Posted By: Joe D.
Although it is thinner than I would think a card its size should be - I think the paper is too thick to be part of pages from a book. |
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Matty Mystery Item - Help me identify
Posted By: martindl
I doubt the Matty has any connection to Necco. Heres a candy box from Necco for Base Balls with a Boston address. |
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Matty Mystery Item - Help me identify
Posted By: Alan Elefson
Joe- |
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Matty Mystery Item - Help me identify
Posted By: davidcycleback
Never mind. Retracted thought. |
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Matty Mystery Item - Help me identify
Posted By: Joe D.
I still do not have any information on the New England Gum Co. |
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Matty Mystery Item - Help me identify
Posted By: PC
Two thoughts: |
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Matty Mystery Item - Help me identify
Posted By: Steve
They were given out as a premium by that company. Last |
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Matty Mystery Item - Help me identify
Posted By: Joe D.
PC - |
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Matty Mystery Item - Help me identify
Posted By: Jodi Birkholm
I would suggest placing a phone call to the main branch of Cambridge's public library, or the Harvard library. They should have the info you're searching for, and should prove to be of assistance in your efforts. I've always had great luck with librarians. If these attempts fail, seek out the city's archivist for advice. Archivists are even more happy to oblige such requests. |
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