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Old 06-01-2008, 12:22 AM
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Default Headin Home Ruth - authentic, reprint or countefeit?

Posted By: Greg Martin

"I assume 99 to 100 percent of the reprints will have these color dots. I'm not aware of the this issue being formally/officially reprinted by a printing house, so I assume most to all reprints were made on home computers or such."

David, thanks for the information. Based on the above statement, a reprint would be a licensed, formal copy of an original and a home computer version would be a counterfeit?

Here is the condensed version:

This card was placed on ebay by a seller who had received several recent negative feedbacks as a buyer. He had perfect seller feedback, some of which included a recent sale of 1911 Helmar stamps. I thought the Headin Home card was authentic based on his scan but figured it was risky, not because of the possibility it was counterfeit, but because I may not receive the card at all. Therefore, I submitted what would be a low offer for one of these authentic cards, with the stipulation that if he agreed he would add a buy it now to the auction. I received his reply the next day that he would reluctantly take the offer and added the buy it now. Then I received it and held it in my hand. It just didn't look right, not even a little bit.

After my discovery and subsequent !@#$, I immediately logged onto this site and attempted to post but couldn't figure out how to place a photo in the message. I e-mailed Leon for his opinion and joined photobucket. I logged into Paypal and filed a dispute. After giving the seller a few days to respond, I upgraded the dispute to a claim. I was willing to give the guy the benefit of the doubt, thinking of the possibility he may have purchased the card without the knowledge of its lack of authenticity. His no response to the dispute, however, answered that question. In my initial dispute, I stated to Paypal that I would be willing to return the card to the seller for a full refund. When I upgraded to a claim, I added I would need the seller's response prior to returning the card because I am not releasing the evidence.

My collection of battered cards can be viewed at PSA's web site under the Martin Family Collection, Babe Ruth master set, etc.

Turner, if I may ask, who sold you that card?

Steve, thanks for the chewed on 1924 Ruth... believe it was last year I bought it from you.

Leon, thanks again for your time prior to, and during this post.

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