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1909-1911 players who didn't get their own T206 card?
Posted By: barry arnold
I'm reading the magnificent THE GLORY OF THEIR TIMES again and just finished |
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1909-1911 players who didn't get their own T206 card?
Posted By: T206Collector
...prominently discussed omissions are Smoky Joe Wood and Shoeless Joe Jackson: |
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1909-1911 players who didn't get their own T206 card?
Posted By: Jason L
but probably not, since I suspect the answer is a simple "no" |
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1909-1911 players who didn't get their own T206 card?
Posted By: T206Collector
....in T206. |
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1909-1911 players who didn't get their own T206 card?
Posted By: Pennsylvania Ted
A powerful righthander that complemented Southpaw Eddie Plank for Connie Mack's A's. |
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1909-1911 players who didn't get their own T206 card?
Posted By: Mark L
I started collecting other sets because T206 doesn't have cards of Babe Adams, Sam Leever, and Eddie Grant along with Wood and Austin. |
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1909-1911 players who didn't get their own T206 card?
Posted By: Dan Koochin
Jack Coombs was 31-9 with a 1.30 ERA in 1910. He started with |
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1909-1911 players who didn't get their own T206 card?
Posted By: Jason L
Joe Wood |
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1909-1911 players who didn't get their own T206 card?
Posted By: barry arnold
Many,many thanks T206 scholars. |
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1909-1911 players who didn't get their own T206 card?
Posted By: Jon Canfield
In response to Jason's question above, even if the T-206 set featured combo cards, the Old Judge's would have beat them to the punch by about 20 years, give or take. |
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1909-1911 players who didn't get their own T206 card?
Posted By: robert a
Ted, |
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1909-1911 players who didn't get their own T206 card?
Posted By: Pennsylvania Ted
I first proposed my theory regarding the T206 Plank about a year ago and the more I delved into it, I realized it included more A's |
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1909-1911 players who didn't get their own T206 card?
Posted By: barry arnold
Many thanks, the list now reads: |
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1909-1911 players who didn't get their own T206 card?
Posted By: Dave Hornish
I have to wonder if the Honus being pulled from cigarette products is due to his promoting cigars at the time T206 was issued? |
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1909-1911 players who didn't get their own T206 card?
Posted By: Cy
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1909-1911 players who didn't get their own T206 card?
Posted By: Dan Bretta
Jimmy Archer was excluded from T206 although he did make it into the T205 set. One of the best defensive catchers of the era. |
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1909-1911 players who didn't get their own T206 card?
Posted By: Steve Dawson
Here's my list of players who I wish were in T206 (and most importantly, were active during 1909, 1910 and/or 1911): |
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1909-1911 players who didn't get their own T206 card?
Posted By: barry arnold
Very helpful comments Dave,Cy,Dan. |
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1909-1911 players who didn't get their own T206 card?
Posted By: Steve Dawson
No real reason Barry, other than I just missed 'em as I was scouring my "Total Baseball" |
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1909-1911 players who didn't get their own T206 card?
Posted By: J Hull
Barry, this is an excellent thread. Thanks for starting it. |
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1909-1911 players who didn't get their own T206 card?
Posted By: Mark L
I forgot to mention Jimmy Archer. Supposedly the epitome of the strong armed catcher. |
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1909-1911 players who didn't get their own T206 card?
Posted By: Pennsylvania Ted
Great analysis....and yes it appears as if the three Pennsylvania teams are under-represented in the T206 set....I don't think this is just |
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1909-1911 players who didn't get their own T206 card?
Posted By: Pennsylvania Ted
In my previous two Threads comparing the Philadelphia A's players in the American Caramel Co. (ACC) sets (E90-type and E91) |
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1909-1911 players who didn't get their own T206 card?
Posted By: Frank Wakefield
Coombs seems like he'd have been a candidate for inclusion, and I share Ted's views on why he was out. By the time the 350 series cards are coming out the folks seeking license from the players may have decided that going to Philadelphia, heart of the caramel folks, was too sticky a situation to tackle... based on their experience with Plank. That could be why Connie Mack is out, too. |
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1909-1911 players who didn't get their own T206 card?
Posted By: Pennsylvania Ted
Thanks to you, sometime back I purchased "The Glory of Their Times" and really enjoyed reading it. I was, however, somewhat |
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1909-1911 players who didn't get their own T206 card?
Posted By: barry arnold
Jamie's contention, based on excellent corroborative data, that the numbers tend to support Ted's theory is approaching unassailability methinks. |
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1909-1911 players who didn't get their own T206 card?
Posted By: T206Collector
...in 1957, which was four or so years prior to Ritter having the idea to publish such a book. Ritter was inspired by the death of Ty Cobb (though he later admitted that the death of his own father was the key), and that didn't happen until 1961. |
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1909-1911 players who didn't get their own T206 card?
Posted By: Pennsylvania Ted
Thanks Paul.... |
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1909-1911 players who didn't get their own T206 card?
Posted By: Pennsylvania Ted
The American Caramel sets (E90 & E91-A) preceded the T206 issue by 1 year. This made an impact on the design of the 1st series |
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1909-1911 players who didn't get their own T206 card?
Posted By: J Levine
How about Earl Moore...arguably the Phillies best pitcher during 1909-1910. He was in several other sets (caramel and tobacco). |
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1909-1911 players who didn't get their own T206 card?
Posted By: Jimmy Muscarella
I have nothing to add...but just wanted to say that this thread is what made me an addict to the board. Great work guys, on adding some nice analysis. |
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1909-1911 players who didn't get their own T206 card?
Posted By: Pennsylvania Ted
While my above post, listing the Boston representation in the early Caramel sets, doesn't provide a clear answer to the "Boston |
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1909-1911 players who didn't get their own T206 card?
Posted By: barry arnold
Updated list of names: |
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1909-1911 players who didn't get their own T206 card?
Posted By: dennis
great thread! only thing i can add at this point is that connie mack seems to be the biggest name omitted. |
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1909-1911 players who didn't get their own T206 card?
Posted By: judson hamlin
Cy Falkenberg and Jack O'Connor also come to mind |
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1909-1911 players who didn't get their own T206 card?
Posted By: Dave Hornish
Well as I suspected I was partially right-Lipset's Encyclopedia indicates the photographs for T205, not T206, were taken 4 years before the set was issued, which influenced which players were included in the series. |
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1909-1911 players who didn't get their own T206 card?
Posted By: barry arnold
Many thanks for the new additions,research, and comments. |
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1909-1911 players who didn't get their own T206 card?
Posted By: Mark Lutz
Barry |
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1909-1911 players who didn't get their own T206 card?
Posted By: dennis
i know this is a real stretch but a card of charles victory faust would have be very sought after(today) if it were in the set. i imagine he would bring hall of famer prices. i know this is about as far fetched as an eddie gaedel in the 1952 topps issue but who here would not love to have that card! or a 52 gaedel. barry should you add him to the list? |
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1909-1911 players who didn't get their own T206 card?
Posted By: indiesmap
I was wondering if 1911 is too late as well. I don't think Tilly Walker had a T206 card, and he came up with Washington that year. I collect cards for local players, and he was from a small town just down the road from me. So if he had a T206 card, does anyone have a scan of one? |
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1909-1911 players who didn't get their own T206 card?
Posted By: barry arnold
Many thanks for the reminders,contributions,and reminiscings,T206 Scholars. |
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1909-1911 players who didn't get their own T206 card?
Posted By: J Levine
How about Pete Hill? |
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1909-1911 players who didn't get their own T206 card?
Posted By: barry arnold
Joshua, |
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1909-1911 players who didn't get their own T206 card?
Posted By: J Levine
Barry, |
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1909-1911 players who didn't get their own T206 card?
Posted By: barry arnold
I agree that your idea would make a great topic, Joshua. |
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1909-1911 players who didn't get their own T206 card?
Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
Joshua, I think you are misconstruing Barry's theme here when you think..... |
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1909-1911 players who didn't get their own T206 card?
Posted By: judson hamlin
I'll see your Shano Collins and raise you Slim Sallee (10 wins in '09). |
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1909-1911 players who didn't get their own T206 card?
Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
Regarding Ed Grant and Earl Moore....they were first in the 1910 NADJA Caramel set (E104) set. And, since the T201 is a 1911 issue..... |
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1909-1911 players who didn't get their own T206 card?
Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
The elusive Jack Coombs finally made it into a Tobacco set. He is teamed up with his battery mate....Ira Thomas. |
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1909-1911 players who didn't get their own T206 card?
Posted By: J Levine
Okay Ted and Barry...in the case you propose, how about Nick Altrock. Played during that time and certainly would be a popular t206 if made and I think he had a Horner photo as well (certainly in the w600 set). |
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