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Posted By: robert a
I'm not that interested in sending cards in for grading myself, but after having a conversation with a friend, I'm interested in your opinions. |
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Posted By: Doug
Considering part of the card is missing, I would also say no. |
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Posted By: Greg Ecklund
I don't see why not, so long as the holder indicates that the card is missing the coupon and the population reports differentiate between the two |
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Posted By: Frank Wakefield
Yes. |
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Posted By: Anonymous
Congratulations on the win! Now I just hope the Bearcats can do the same when they play Louisville. |
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Posted By: Tom Boblitt
from a Cardinal fan.......... |
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Posted By: leon
No |
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Posted By: Dave Hornish
What can't they do a HC grade, like they do with miscuts? |
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Posted By: Cat
Yes |
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Posted By: Fred C
A Zeenut with the coupon cut off is a card that has been altered. I don't think that a numerical grade should be assigned to these cards. In fact, the grading companies can be pretty off the wall with their grading of any card. I think that all cards should be certified AUTHENTIC or ALTERED. Let the people purchasing and selling the cards determine the grade. Nobody's going to agree anyway. |
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Posted By: Rhett Yeakley
As long as they are grading strip cards, I have no problem with grading Zeenuts missing the coupons. |
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Posted By: Steve Murray
Yes |
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Posted By: boxingcardman
But it does raise an interesting side issue, which is that last I tried, SGC would not numerically grade an Exhibit card with the coupon removed (some have corner coupons). Seems to me it should be a consistent approach, not some coupon bearing issues grade and some don't. |
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Posted By: Glen V
NO |
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Posted By: robert a
Thanks for some good responses. |
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Posted By: JimB
Yes, just identify the lack of coupon. |
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Posted By: Frank Wakefield
Straightened later vs original tear... |
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Posted By: robert a
Jim, |
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Posted By: robert a
Frank, |
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Posted By: leon
"You can tell later cuts by toning on edges, the roll, uneven corner wear, etc. |
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Posted By: Frank Wakefield
Robert, we have pointless circumlocution if you maintain that the coupon is part of the card. I don't think it is, and if you insist it is then discussing the cutting or tearing is pointless. |
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Posted By: Andrew
In my opinion Zeenuts with coupon removed should only receive an authentic grade. I also think that cut strip cards, cut exhibits etc should also only receive an authentic grade. I guess I am in the minority in my thinking. |
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Posted By: Matthew
AUTH grade only. |
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Posted By: robert a
Frank, |
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Posted By: Andrew
Even if you only define the "card" as the photo, and exclude the coupon from being part of the "card," in my opinion when the coupon is cut off that is a hand cut alteration on the bottom edge of the "card" that should result in at most an authentic grade. |
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Posted By: Frank Wakefield
I understand your thought process on it all, Robert. I just have a different view on it. |
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Posted By: Rhett Yeakley
Does anybody know if the grading Co's will grade D381's without the coupon or do they just get an Authentic grade when the kewp is clipped? Seems like a good comparison. |
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Posted By: boxingcardman
Grade them both ways but expressly note the rarer one on the flip. In the case of Zeenuts, where the vast majority of the cards have no coupons, if the coupon is intact SGC notes it as such. It should all have to do with how people collect. The vast majority of Zeenut collectors are pleased with and collect cards without the coupons. It makes sense to grade them. |
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Posted By: leon
I sent my D381 Smokey Joe into SGC about 3-4 yrs ago and they wouldn't grade it. Since then they have changed their policy and will grade them without the coupon. They said they would grade that card of mine for free now....but I haven't sent it in. regards |
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Posted By: Andrew
What if there is some "extra" paper from the coupon still on a Zeenut. So the full photo is present, and a portion of the coupon is still attached (but not the entire coupon). Does this "extra" paper factor into the grade of the card? Frank seems to think it does not count for the purposes of grading. Is this correct? Do SGC and PSA agree? How about a card with very sharp top corners, full photo, and what is left of the coupon has been cut with scissors to look like a mountain range is still attached to the bottom of the card. Is this a high grade SGC 84+ because top corners are sharp and the full "card" is intact? Or is it some lesser grade? What lesser grade? I would get around this guessing game by having all cut cards only be able to receive an authentic grade. |
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Posted By: Frank Wakefield
Andrew, I don't know if it counts or not... I'm not very wise in the ways of grading. |
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