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Old 01-07-2009, 02:21 PM
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Posted By: doug Bacon

Curious what you guys think. I'm of to a good start with my raw set of t206's. This is my favorite page and I can't stop staring at it. My ? is how does a raw Southern leaguer worth around $100-$150 in ex condition turn into $350 in a PSA holder. Anyone that loves t206's knows a fake from a reprint. Is the extra $250 just for someone to tell you what condition it is or the shiny, stackable holder. [linked image]

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Old 01-07-2009, 02:26 PM
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Posted By: peter ullman

Nice cards...I prefer RAW...by far...and I'm considering cracking all of my cards and putting them in binders...like I did in the old days.

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Posted By: marty q

o.m.g.!!! over /under on the posts!!??

ok joke's over- i do raw and graded.

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Old 01-07-2009, 02:29 PM
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It all depends who the seller is!

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Posted By: Steve

I prefer raw until it is time to sell, then I'd like to get the extra 250.00.


I'm sure you will too.


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Old 01-07-2009, 02:33 PM
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Posted By: marty q

"It all depends who the seller is!"

ha! now a days so true, and a shame at the same time.

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Old 01-07-2009, 02:34 PM
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Posted By: doug Bacon

WHERE DOES THE EXTRA $250 COME FROM???? There's no way a card being authenticated drives the price that much. I just don't get it.

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Old 01-07-2009, 02:35 PM
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Posted By: dan mckee

Steve hit the nail on the head. My thoughts exactly. I prefer to collect raw as I can display the sets better. But it is tough not to want to grade when you are going to sell since someone will pay you $250 for a $14 label.

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Posted By: quan

doug,

nice start. don't be influenced by some card snobs here that has to put down/ridicule how others like to collect. if you enjoy your cards raw that's great. i can do either if it's a card i like. of course there's no better feeling than buying a nice raw EX card for alot less than what it would've cost graded.

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Posted By: Adam

"how does a raw Southern leaguer worth around $100-$150 in ex condition turn into $350 in a PSA holder"

I think it's because when in a holder, it eliminates the "what if this card is slightly trimmed and I cannot tell" etc. questions a buyer may have. Thus buyers are willing to pay more for the certainty that comes from a PSA or SGC cert.

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Posted By: Chris Counts

I really like the idea of putting cards in plastic pages, but I've seen some cards over the years that suffered paper loss as a result. But I can't stand slabs, so I keep everything in topholders, which I scan and store in safe deposit boxes ...

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Old 01-07-2009, 02:41 PM
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Posted By: doug Bacon

Who on this board thinks that because a card is graded it isn't trimmed. How many people have sent 100 t206's to psa, had 8 returned as trimmed and resubmitted them only to see them be graded the second time. I know i have

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Posted By: peter ullman

here we go again.

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Posted By: Rick McQuillan

I collect lower grade T206's, most of which would grade in the 1 to 3 range. All of them are raw, including the 40-50 that were in slabs, except for the 4 Cobbs, Dahlen, Elberfeld, and Lundgren. I also have around 90 T205's, and all are raw except 1.

I learned the hard way on a couple of T206's when I first started, but now I know what to look for, although I much prefer to purchase graded cards of the more expensive HOFers and variations.

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Posted By: JimCrandell

Hmmm let me think--you know ther cards legit, it has a higher value and you can compete on the PSA Set Registry for the prestigious awards. No contest-graded.

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Posted By: Adam

"Who on this board thinks that because a card is graded it isn't trimmed. How many people have sent 100 t206's to psa, had 8 returned as trimmed and resubmitted them only to see them be graded the second time. I know i have"

I am sure we could all agree this has happened / could happen with every grading company, not just PSA. Sounds like you are anti-grading, so just stay with everything raw and enjoy collecting the way you prefer it!

ps- Can you post some scans of the 8 cards you mentioned?

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Posted By: Adam

Also, it should be pointed out that PSA is better than SGC at grading.

Edited to add: smiley face (if I knew how to add one).

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Posted By: doug Bacon

Sorry, I sold all my graded cards to start my retirement fund. Most of them were centered to the top and didn't have much border but they still got 7's.

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Posted By: marty q

doug , you asked if raw or graded, where are you going now??? not to burst your bubble, but this board has gone over raw/graded, trimmed/micro trimmed, erased/ power erased, etc, get the point, at least a dozen times a year. can we stick to what do you prefer raw or graded. you like raw we get. please not another psa bashing therad....the board needs to designate 1 day a week for psa bashing. or grading bashing, whatever it may be.

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Posted By: Fred C

Oh please, don't mention encapsulated trimmed T206 cards and the possibility of PSA doing this... I just might bring up that collection of T206 cards that PSA graded... I should have made a new years resolution to never mention that name again... I'm doing my best not to type that name....



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Posted By: Doug

Having them graded makes them easier to sell in the future (if need be), but if I was 100% sure that I'd never have to part with them I'd prefer to have them together in a binder like what you are doing with yours.

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Posted By: doug Bacon

I'm certainly not bashing PSA. They made me a fortune. I just want to know how someone could pay so much more for a graded card

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Posted By: E, Daniel

Accept my apologies if I'm wrong, but the tenor and writing style of Marshall, Macboube and Bacon sound earily similar......
It beggars belief anyone could have followed the board for the last week and feel we need a new PSA bashing isn't-it-ridiculous-to-slab thread????

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Posted By: Marty Ogelvie

I love the look of a graded card but if I had my druthers.. I would go for RAW.

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Posted By: dan mckee

card snobs ridiculing how someone collects?? I read the above posts Quan and I do not see anyone ridiculing someone else's collecting habits. And are you sure you have ever owned a raw card??

And I know my cards are legit, and many graded ones are not.

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Posted By: Steve

Doug if graded cards have made you a fortune then surely
you must now why.


I too did not see anyone ridiculing how anyone collects.

Like I said earlier I prefer cards raw until I have to sell

them, then I too would like to make a fortune.

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Posted By: Frank Wakefield

How dear to my heart is the shiny holder,
that protects my card all day and all night.
It makes my card buying much braver and bolder,
and keeps my card collecting from being a fright.

And of course the set registry is a wonderful deal,
Forget that the graders can't tell fake from real.
It's all that I yearn for, plastic tombs in a line,
My money goes for postage and slabs which is fine.



And the answer is, RAW.

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Posted By: Michael Steele

Well this thread is quickly sliding into the muck. How about we have a tug of war at the National between the "raw" team vs the "graded" team. happy.gif

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Posted By: Jantz

I like mine raw with a little bit of Louisiana hot sauce.

I guess I won't be getting one of the "prestigious awards".

Oh well

Seriously though, I buy both. As long as it pleases me, then it really doesn't matter whether its raw or graded.

Jantz

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