Lionel Carter

GRock · #1 05-12-2009, 09:17 PM

I bought a few to have in a set I'm building, and I think it's really neat to have something once owned by a great person that enjoyed his collection.

tbob · #2 05-12-2009, 09:27 PM

I too have purchased caramel and tobacco cards for the pedigree, Carter and Nagy, plus they were really nice looking cards. I have refused to upgrade them because the fact they once belonged to these hobby pioneers makes them special.
I have noticed several of Carter and Nagy's cards which have been graded "authentic" but I believe that was due to old time collectors innocently trimming them up for various aesthetic purposes, not with an intent to deceive anyone or be fraudulent.

Jacklitsch · #3 05-12-2009, 09:43 PM

Here's my lone Lionel Carter. I wish he had collected Zeenuts.

MikeU · #4 05-12-2009, 11:17 PM

Every hobbyist should own at least one Lionel Carter card in their collection. Watching the video's and listening to his NPR interview brought a tear to my eye. The man was what the hobby was meant to be and still felt the same way about his cards from age 8-80.

David Halpen · #5 05-13-2009, 07:55 AM

David: That is an amazing CJ Mathewson. I cannot believe how nice it looks. I am stunned.

I have added a few Carter cards to my collection. I view them as a compliment to my respective set. One thing that I have learned is that Carter's cards have a "pack fresh" appearance to them. They have such nice eye appeal that often the technical grade does not do them justice. An example is the Mathewson card.

Another example is his 1933 Delong set. This was his first set that he put together. I always loved this set but often the cards in my grade range have poor eye appeal. When it went up for auction in Mastro, I lost out on it. However, when it went up for auction in the recent Legendary auction, I was determined not to loss a second time.

I ended up paying a premium for this set based on the techincal grade. However, the eye appeal of the set is several grade levels above the technical grade. In addition, I have Lionel Carter's first set. This set is the pride of my collection. Not because of value but because of its signifiance to Lionel Carter.

rc4157 · #6 05-13-2009, 09:12 AM

Brian - My guess on the Bescher being graded authentic is that it is probably trimmed. Still presents very well in my opinion and is nice that it is from the Carter collection.

RC

benjulmag · #7 05-13-2009, 04:43 PM

My guess is that as time goes on, cards (1) with the pedigree of coming from a hobby legend (such as Lionel Carter) AND (2) known to have been literally pulled from the pack by that person, will sell for more and more of a premium. The reason IMO is less because they were once owned by a hobby legend, but more because people will REALLY know nothing was done to them.