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05-24-2009, 10:26 AM
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Though I believe Bob Lemke to be an honorable person and a valued member of our hobby....well...as the saying goes "you go to bed with dogs ,you wake up with fleas". When SCD stops associating with Coaches Corner's swill than their auction will be received much better.The creditability of SCD is near zero.
In the last Coaches Corner auction I believe they had a single signed Mike Kelly ball from 1890.....are you kidding!!! I think I can complete a single signed HOF set just from Coaches Corner and have it fit in my budget. How can you think for 1 second you can run your auction next to Coaches Corner and have it embraced.Mr O'Connell,you know right from wrong...do the right thing. 
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05-24-2009, 10:33 AM
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Yea if you go to Coach's Corner auction that just ended you could have won a King Kelly autographed ball for 1520.00 and a Lou Gehrig autographed bat for 460.00 both for under 2000.00. What a stinking joke. Somebody stop these guys.
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05-24-2009, 10:51 AM
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I think there is so much anger toward this, basically like rats leaving a ship when it comes to what is correct and incorrect in regards to the forementioned. I have to ask you (and by coming in here, I think I should) what others want to know. Why should we trust SCD?
It cares more about the revenue stream then doing the right thing. Also, doesn't anyone else think it's amusing that a periodical that's sole duty is to get the word out on the behalf of auction houses (and sellers) through paid advertising, is now competing with them? Also, great job Wonka.
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05-24-2009, 01:32 PM
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This reminds me of SCD's attempt to get into the graded card market a few years back, how'd that work out?!?
Plus did anyone else feel like their min. bids on most items were high? Many of the min. bids would be the max. I'd bid on that particular iitem.jmo. Mr. wonka, you continually impress me with every post,and you've got my vote as having the best icon by your name.
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#5
05-24-2009, 02:13 PM
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CC is an advertiser, this appears to be the company's own auction house. Excluding the discussed lot and looking through the auction catalog, it's easy to differentiate the two. To start, the third party autograph authenticator for this auction is JSA. It should also be noted that many, including many on this board, thought SCD did a reliable job of grading and authenticating baseball cards, but weren't able to get a foothold in the market. If anything, recalling their defunct card grading unit, and their old game used authentication unit (SCDAuthentic), points out the company's abilities in those particular areas.
I also think that auction errors should first be pointed out to the auctioneer. If it is then not corrected, then it can be brought public. It's duly noted that in this case Bob initiated the thread and the initial sign post was only a question. I hope the auction is a success for SCD and bidders. Success means SCD makes a good honest profit and bidders win good authentic stuff. Last edited by drc; 05-24-2009 at 03:25 PM.
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05-24-2009, 03:19 PM
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First off this is not directed at Bob Lemke the guy is a super star and a hero in this hobby just a bad case of association here with a bogus item.
I’m sure Bob and the team will pull this lot. Although I’m very surprised and shocked this one got by Bob and the team as it’s so obvious like a blue eyed Wagner or Fro-Joy set…your first auction and a highlight lot? Not buried in the back of some huge catalog but lot 2 is a super well known commonly questioned item..I'm shocked.  Bob must have been out the day of the YouTube PR video shoot; no way has a guy like Lemke missed this one? In regards to SCD it’s all about feeding the system…you can’t play both sides of the fence. On any given day you can’t play the side of a publisher whose job it is to play a neutral field in the form of accepting advertising from anyone who is willing to pay, to running an auction house for profit. One can’t do the second and be so neutral one must be willing to boot lots ask questions of sources and consignors the luxury of see no evil hear no evil won’t apply to the latter. Also taking money from guys like Coaches Corner and the sort is only feeding the system of fraud and giving a known bad guy if you will an avenue to 92,000 collectors as they are so proud to admit to reaching. A person recently emailed me a great analogy imagine if REA was partners of PRO or was owned by PRO and then in direct mailings REA told folks about their legitimate honest grading service PRO….one would certainly scratch their head…something to think about. Cheers, John
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05-24-2009, 03:54 PM
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I didnt feel anyone was attacking Mr. Lemke,but they were commenting on SCD's loss of credibility.
I remember hearing complaints about the SCD grading/authenticating setup and then it was gone. it lasted what, 1-2 years? That just dosn't bring "successful" to mind. I too hope it's a win-win for SCD and those who buy their auction items,but as a former subscriber,I wish they would have focused more on making a great hobby magazine with 100% credibility. jmo.
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05-24-2009, 03:56 PM
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From a practical standpoint, it would seem a good way for SCD to free itself from CC is for this auction to succeed financially. If you want SCD to drop CC, you should hope SCD's own auction is a success. If you wish SCD to remain financially dependent on CC's advertising money, you should hope its auctions fail. The former may not free SCD of CC, but the latter will almost certainly keep the CC advertising alive and well.
Last edited by drc; 05-24-2009 at 04:01 PM.
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#10
05-24-2009, 04:17 PM
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From a practical matter, it would seem a good way for SCD to free itself from CC is for this auction to succeed financially. If you want SCD to drop CC, you should hope SCD's own auction is a success. If wish SCD to remain dependent on CC's advertising, you should want SCD's auction to fail.
If someone wishes to boycott SCD and their auctions (which I assume means he doesn't own a Standard Catalog of Baseball Cards!) that is fine by me. However, I hope the above illustrates that relationships and, in particular, practical cause-and-effect are often different than one believes. One of my favorite quotes of Yogi Berra is, "In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is." By the way, do I think the magazine should drop CC advertising? Sure. Last edited by drc; 05-24-2009 at 04:34 PM.
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