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Old 06-05-2009, 05:08 AM
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All good points. If auctions are becoming popular on BST, then they should have their own section. As previously stated, it isn't fair to the straight sellers to have their threads constantly bumped down.

Of course, if you list an item and state "$500 OBO", in a sense that is an auction too, as you are taking various offers from each buyer.
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Old 06-05-2009, 06:32 AM
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I am open to discussing this issue (do I have a choice?). I looked at the categories and I don't think there is one I want to get rid of though.....
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Old 06-05-2009, 06:40 AM
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Having thought about this overnight....

If I have a card auction on the BST and it gets 7 bids, I agree it is bumped to the top 7 times. BUT that doesn't knock a straight sale down 7 notches, it only knocks it down one notch. So that bump evil isn't quite as egregious as has been implied.

An auction is a sale.

Putting them in there with those links to eBay auctions isn't the right place for them.

The Isbell T206 auction will be my last one for a while, didn't mean to get folks so riled.
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Old 06-05-2009, 06:47 AM
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Frank, not riled at all, I think auctions are a good thing, I just still think they need a new category. Here's why: you're right that your auction is only one bump and doesn't move sales all the way down the page, but that is the same with EVERY auction that benefits from constant bumping. So, examine the BST page right now, and you'll see Auctions up top, then sales below. And that's how it's going to be with auctions in the sales page, and if there are more auctions, it will be like cream floating to the top, and though every auction is one thread, they will collectively displace the sales. That's the problem as I see it.

Last edited by sgbernard; 06-05-2009 at 07:04 AM. Reason: When I posted this, there were in fact two auctions at the top of the T card BST
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Old 06-05-2009, 07:33 AM
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2 more thoughts....

1- the fellow selling screwdowns and toploaders on the BST thread... those aren't even cards!! Maybe we need a supplies catagory, too.

2- maybe folks selling on the BST should consider doing so by way of the auction format since they have such great advantages over the straight sale listings.

Still, Isbell will be the last auction I do here for the time being. He's reached a sufficient price for me to let the auction close. I'll bump it back to the top when I post the closing time (after I hear back from the high bidder), then I'll put auctions to rest.
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Old 06-05-2009, 09:09 AM
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2 more thoughts....

1- the fellow selling screwdowns and toploaders on the BST thread... those aren't even cards!! Maybe we need a supplies catagory, too.
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This thread just got moved to the "everything else" spot on the BST. It was in the wrong spot. I am still open for a solution to the auction/BST situation but as everyone will remember I sort of said I didn't want to hear about issues......(yeah, I know, good luck on that)
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Old 06-05-2009, 09:17 AM
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A new "Net54 Auctions" Category seems like the simplest solution to me. Does the software for this forum not allow the expansion of categories?
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Old 06-05-2009, 08:03 AM
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Of course, if you list an item and state "$500 OBO", in a sense that is an auction too, as you are taking various offers from each buyer.
Barry - good point; there is really just a subtle difference between that and what Frank has setup with "He's reached a sufficient price for me to let the auction close."
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Old 06-05-2009, 08:11 AM
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Golly, Frank, I don't see anyone "bashing" or getting "riled." It's a discussion.

Please don't take your auctions and go home.
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Old 06-05-2009, 08:18 AM
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Matt- of course there are slight differences, but auctions and direct sales could easily have their own sections. Perhaps the auctions could be placed in the section for ebay and catalog auction announcements.

With regard to straight sales getting bumped down, there is no harm in a seller simply bumping his own thread when he feels it fallen too far down the column. That in turn could bring about a bumping war, with sellers and auctioneers fighting for the top spot.
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Old 06-05-2009, 08:23 AM
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That in turn could bring about a bumping war, with sellers and auctioneers fighting for the top spot.

Barry: exactly.
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